<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">After stumbling around a bit on the <a href="http://icon8.com">icon8.com</a> web site, it looks like we will be fine to use their icons freely, in any form obtained from their web site. We just are not allowed to edit them except for the most basic operations.</div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://icons8.com/license">https://icons8.com/license</a></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://icons8.com/pricing">https://icons8.com/pricing</a> (scroll down, read the Free pane on the left) <br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://community.icons8.com/t/recolor-an-icon/1424">https://community.icons8.com/t/recolor-an-icon/1424</a> </div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://icons8.com/articles/we-contributed-icon-to-imageoptim/">https://icons8.com/articles/we-contributed-icon-to-imageoptim/</a> </div><div>It might be nice to tell them that we use some of their icons: <a href="http://disq.us/p/1p1l0dn">http://disq.us/p/1p1l0dn</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>However, not all content in Squeak is actually under the proclaimed MIT license. This does not only apply to these icons, but also to the already included fonts.</div><div><a href="https://www.fontsquirrel.com/license/Bitstream-Vera-Sans">https://www.fontsquirrel.com/license/Bitstream-Vera-Sans</a> </div><div>We have to reproduce their copyright notice. </div><div><br></div><div>Should Squeak's license statement therefore not include a list of the included parts and their licenses? Currently it only lists the MIT license and the Apache License under Help > License Information and on the website: <a href="https://squeak.org/license/">https://squeak.org/license/</a></div><div><div><br></div><div>It would be more appropriate to include the attribution notice in a more visible place than the methods with the bytes in them. Most users will not look there. Somewhere in the About window, or a small notice on the welcome screen would be more suitable.<br></div><div dir="ltr"></div></div><div><br></div><div>If you agree that this should be done, I suggest to do it rather before the release than after. Maybe not looking through the complete image, but at least catalogue the known parts: icons and fonts.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,<br>Jakob</div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Fr., 14. Feb. 2020 um 13:19 Uhr schrieb Thiede, Christoph <<a href="mailto:Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de">Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 14. Februar 2020 12:46:01<br>
<b>An:</b> The general-purpose Squeak developers list<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: Tools-ct.940.mcz</font>
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<div dir="auto">Here are further terms, but no mention of the Creative Commons license.
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<div dir="auto">These don't look like the usual legalese. Maybe the site has some official terms buried somewhere.</div>
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<li>See #checkmark (added by Marcel), it uses the same license and cite.</li><li>The original picture is from here: <a href="https://img.icons8.com/metro/26/000000/settings.png" id="gmail-m_-8320687971997318527m_724350368392726947LPlnk531537" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://img.icons8.com/metro/26/000000/settings.png</a> (Unfortunately, you cannot link
 to the containing page directly). But if you search for any icon on the page, you will be offered to "edit it in lunancy", probably to change the color. So don't they want this?</li><li>There is no author specified, so I assume the "author" is "icons8".</li></ol>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 14. Februar 2020 08:34:15<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Does this not violate the license of the icon? It says attribution and no derivatives, yet I see no name of the creator and the comment states "modified".</div>
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Christoph Thiede uploaded a new version of Tools to project The Inbox:<br>
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