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<p>Hi Jakob,</p>
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<p>I appreciate your courage to work through all these boring and annoying license stuff ...!</p>
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<div class="_rp_T4" id="Item.MessagePartBody">> <span style="font-size: 12pt;">It would be more appropriate to include the attribution notice in a more visible place than the methods with the bytes in them. Most users will not look there. Somewhere in the About
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<div>The practice I used when writing license notes for XmasDecorations was the following: I added a special pragma to each resource-defining method. Example:</div>
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<div><span><xmasResourceBy: 'Larisa K' from: #Pixabay></span></div>
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<div><span>Then all credits can be collected by something like this:</span></div>
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<div><span><span>Pragma allNamed: #xmasResourceBy:from: in: XmasResources.</span></span></div>
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<div><span><span>I propose to apply the same pattern for Trunk resources. It allows us to define license information side-by-side to the resource and minimizes the risk of dangling credits in any distant help article.</span></span></div>
<div><span><span>We could even write a test to assert that each trunk method that defines a resources has a pragma:</span></span></div>
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And, of course, we could provide a set of overloaded pragma selector for different license formats.</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>Von:</b> Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von Jakob Reschke <forums.jakob@resfarm.de><br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 14. Februar 2020 21:25 Uhr<br>
<b>An:</b> The general-purpose Squeak developers list<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [squeak-dev] Content licenses (was: The Inbox: Tools-ct.940.mcz)</font>
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<div>Hi all,</div>
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<div dir="ltr">After stumbling around a bit on the <a href="http://icon8.com" id="LPlnk704050" previewremoved="true">
icon8.com</a> web site, it looks like we will be fine to use their icons freely, in any form obtained from their web site. We just are not allowed to edit them except for the most basic operations.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><a href="https://icons8.com/pricing" id="LPlnk727159" previewremoved="true">https://icons8.com/pricing</a> (scroll down, read the Free pane on the left)
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Hello, Congratulations for your illustrations which are very beautiful and well done! My question concerns the recolouring of one of your icons for a personal website. If I recolor one of your icons and put it on my si…</div>
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Icons for popular open source projects are free. By "popular" we meant the projects that have a community of users and contributors. Tell us about your project.</div>
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<div>It might be nice to tell them that we use some of their icons: <a href="http://disq.us/p/1p1l0dn" id="LPlnk210483" previewremoved="true">
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<div>However, not all content in Squeak is actually under the proclaimed MIT license. This does not only apply to these icons, but also to the already included fonts.</div>
<div><a href="https://www.fontsquirrel.com/license/Bitstream-Vera-Sans" id="LPlnk541416" previewremoved="true">https://www.fontsquirrel.com/license/Bitstream-Vera-Sans</a> </div>
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<div>We have to reproduce their copyright notice. </div>
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<div>Should Squeak's license statement therefore not include a list of the included parts and their licenses? Currently it only lists the MIT license and the Apache License under Help > License Information and on the website: <a href="https://squeak.org/license/" id="LPlnk7258" previewremoved="true">https://squeak.org/license/</a></div>
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<div>It would be more appropriate to include the attribution notice in a more visible place than the methods with the bytes in them. Most users will not look there. Somewhere in the About window, or a small notice on the welcome screen would be more suitable.<br>
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<div>If you agree that this should be done, I suggest to do it rather before the release than after. Maybe not looking through the complete image, but at least catalogue the known parts: icons and fonts.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Fr., 14. Feb. 2020 um 13:19 Uhr schrieb Thiede, Christoph <<a href="mailto:Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de">Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a>>:<br>
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<p>Their german version (which also lists the icons) mentions the license: <a href="https://icons8.de/license" id="gmail-m_-8320687971997318527LPlnk923648" target="_blank">https://icons8.de/license</a> ^^</p>
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<div id="gmail-m_-8320687971997318527divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>Von:</b> Squeak-dev <<a href="mailto:squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank">squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>
im Auftrag von Jakob Reschke <<a href="mailto:forums.jakob@resfarm.de" target="_blank">forums.jakob@resfarm.de</a>><br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 14. Februar 2020 12:46:01<br>
<b>An:</b> The general-purpose Squeak developers list<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: Tools-ct.940.mcz</font>
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<div dir="auto">Here are further terms, but no mention of the Creative Commons license.
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<div dir="auto">These don't look like the usual legalese. Maybe the site has some official terms buried somewhere.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Thiede, Christoph <<a href="mailto:Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de" target="_blank">Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a>> schrieb am Fr., 14. Feb. 2020, 09:34:<br>
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<p>Good question ...</p>
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<li>See #checkmark (added by Marcel), it uses the same license and cite.</li><li>The original picture is from here: <a href="https://img.icons8.com/metro/26/000000/settings.png" id="gmail-m_-8320687971997318527m_724350368392726947LPlnk531537" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://img.icons8.com/metro/26/000000/settings.png</a> (Unfortunately,
you cannot link to the containing page directly). But if you search for any icon on the page, you will be offered to "edit it in lunancy", probably to change the color. So don't they want this?</li><li>There is no author specified, so I assume the "author" is "icons8".</li></ol>
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<font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>Von:</b> Squeak-dev <<a href="mailto:squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>> im Auftrag von
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 14. Februar 2020 08:34:15<br>
<b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Does this not violate the license of the icon? It says attribution and no derivatives, yet I see no name of the creator and the comment states "modified".</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Do., 13. Feb. 2020 um 01:24 Uhr schrieb <<a href="mailto:commits@source.squeak.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">commits@source.squeak.org</a>>:<br>
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Christoph Thiede uploaded a new version of Tools to project The Inbox:<br>
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