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<b>From:</b> Jakob Reschke<br>
<b>Received:</b> Thu Apr 09 2020 12:13:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)<br>
<b>To:</b> gettimothy via Squeak-dev<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [squeak-dev] Why is ModificationForbidden not an Error?</font><br>
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<div dir="auto" style="font-size: 12px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial;">Making it an error might also make smalltalkCI (through SUnit) catch it to continue. Failing the tests rather than halting the run.
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Eliot Miranda <<a href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>> schrieb am Do., 9. Apr. 2020, 17:04:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Christoph,<br>
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<blockquote>On Apr 9, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Thiede, Christoph <<a href="mailto:Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div id="m_-1044325971050313314Item.MessagePartBody" style="font-size:12pt;">At the moment (#<span>19541), a bug in FileList2 class >> #<span>endingSpecs (which I'm going to fix ASAP) breaks the test #<span>testShowAllBinParts. But because ModificationForbidden
is not an Error, it is not caught by the TestRunner so the whole suite run blows up, too.</span></span></span></div>
<div id="m_-1044325971050313314Item.MessagePartBody"><span style="font-size:12pt;">I could make another example by triggering a ModificationForbidden in a #drawOn: method to destroy the whole image</span><span style="font-size:12pt;">, too.</span><br>
<span style="font-size:8pt;">(Morph newSubclass </span><span style="font-size:8pt;">compile: 'drawOn: x #(1) at: 1 put: 2'; </span><span style="font-size:8pt;">new) openInHand)</span></div>
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<div id="m_-1044325971050313314Item.MessagePartBody" style="font-size:12pt;"><span><span><span>So my question is:</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;"> Why
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;">doesn't </span><span style="font-size:12pt;">ModificationForbidden derive from Error? Isn't it actually an error? Similar illegal operations such as "#() at: 0" or "{} at: 1 put: #foo" raise some kind of Error, too. Everything
I learned so far about Squeak's exception framework tells me that you should have a very good reason if you design an exception neither to derive from Error, nor from Notification. At the moment, we only do have 9 exceptions (bad pun ...) to this rule (and
I'm not even sure whether <span>MCNoChangesException couldn't be a notification, and Abort does not even have senders in the Trunk)</span>.</span></div>
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on why <span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;">ModificationForbidden does not follow this rule. How can we deal with this in order to fix the bugs/unexpected behaviors mentioned above?</span></span><br>
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I think this is an oversight in my part. I agree that <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">ModificationForbidden is an error. I took the code from Pharo and didn’t notice </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">ModificationForbidden
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