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<p>Hi all, Hi Tobias,</p>
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<p>does the attached changeset match your expectations? :-)</p>
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<p>Best,</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>Von:</b> Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 3. September 2020 15:56:49<br>
<b>An:</b> squeak-dev<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [squeak-dev] Inspector Custom Value Panes & Related</font>
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Plus, TextFontReference is a rather fixed pointer to a specific font and size, which breaks when using Squeak's notion of High-DPI with bigger fonts in general. TextFontChange works better with its index. And so does TextEmphasis for italic.
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<p style="color: #AAAAAA; margin-top: 10px;">Am 03.09.2020 15:53:35 schrieb Tobias Pape <das.linux@gmx.de>:</p>
<div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Hi<br>
> On 03.09.2020, at 15:04, Thiede, Christoph <christoph.thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>
wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi Tobias,<br>
> <br>
> > Also, I don't see how two font refs can ever be stacked, it makes not much sense, no?<br>
> <br>
> That was exactly my point. 'foo' asText beAllFont: font1; beAllFont: font2 does not make any sense, of course, but when a text is passed from somewhere else, you may not know which formatting has already been applied to it ...<br>
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That is true. But if you want to change the font, there's only so much you can do.<br>
If you want just change an upright font to an italic one, the FontReference will not work in any case.<br>
The TextFontChange attribute is seemingly intended for that, but it only understands "Font array indices" which is most unhelpful :D<br>
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Best regards<br>
-Tobias<br>
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> <br>
> Best,<br>
> Christoph<br>
> <br>
> Von: Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org>im Auftrag von Tobias Pape
<das.linux@gmx.de><br>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. September 2020 00:13:24<br>
> An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list<br>
> Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] Inspector Custom Value Panes & Related<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > On 02.09.2020, at 23:29, Thiede, Christoph <christoph.thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>
wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > Hi Tobias, thanks for the tips! :-)<br>
> > <br>
> > > I think the "TextFontReference toFont:" and explicit "addAttribute:" are a bit involved; maybe something akin to Text>>#makeBoldFrom:to:/Text>>#allBold would be nice.<br>
> > <br>
> > Would you expect such a Text>>#setFont:from:to: only to add a TextFontReference or also to remove all existing TextFontReferences from the interval?<br>
> > <br>
> <br>
> I'd be wary of using #set... because exactly that expectation happens.<br>
> Vocabulary is cumbersome, tho.<br>
> see TextMorph's _be_AllFont, Text's _make_Bold and the attributes only ever add.<br>
> <br>
> Also, I don't see how two font refs can ever be stacked, it makes not much sense, no?<br>
> Coalescing the runs would probably take care of chopping up the different font runs, but that's beneath the cover.<br>
> <br>
> That said, I liked the Seaside/Magritte-wording with beSomething on their brushes or models respectively…<br>
> <br>
> Best regards<br>
> -Tobias<br>
> <br>
> > Best,<br>
> > Christoph<br>
> > Von: Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org>im Auftrag von Tobias Pape
<das.linux@gmx.de><br>
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. September 2020 22:04:38<br>
> > An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list<br>
> > Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] Inspector Custom Value Panes & Related<br>
> > <br>
> > Hi<br>
> > <br>
> > > On 02.09.2020, at 21:14, Thiede, Christoph <christoph.thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>
wrote:<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Hi Eric,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > > I can't seem to find MorphInspector in a current (5.3 here) image. Is this a separate package?<br>
> > > <br>
> > > MorphInspector, FormInspector, and a bunch of other small new improvements to the inspector framework have arrived in the Squeak Trunk just a few months ago! Seehttp://forum.world.st/Please-try-out-Inspector-Refactoring-td5114974.html andhttps://squeak.org/downloads/#current-trunk-image-2:~:text=Current-,Trunk,-Image
:-)<br>
> > > <br>
> > > > I find the whole relationship between a Text and TextStyle a bit confusing, especially where it comes to setting Fonts. It appears that there are lots of different "kinds" of Fonts, and there's a good amount of indirection so it's difficult to determine
which kind of fonts (StrikeFont? TTFont?) "live" and how to see what's available and pick programmatically. Is there a good primer somewhere on Text/TextStyle?<br>
> > > <br>
> > > These are good questions others can probably answer better than I could do.<br>
> > > This is all I can tell you:<br>
> > > • Font rendering in Squeak is difficult and the default font (DejaVu Sans) appears to be the only one that looks kind of nice in all sizes. I almost never choose a different font.<br>
> > > • To change the font in a Text, use something like:<br>
> > > 'foo' asText<br>
> > > addAttribute: (TextFontReference toFont: (StrikeFont<br>
> > > familyName: 'Darkmap DejaVu Sans'<br>
> > > pointSize: 20));<br>
> > > openAsMorph<br>
> > <br>
> > I'd suggest to use the TextStyle indirection, so you don't have to guess wether the font is a Strike font or a TTFont or whatever:<br>
> > <br>
> > 'foo' asText<br>
> > addAttribute: (TextFontReference toFont: ((TextStyle named: 'Darkmap DejaVu Sans') fontOfSize: 20));<br>
> > openAsMorph<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > If you are just after changing the font used in a TextMorph (not the text itself), I'd use<br>
> > <br>
> > 'foo' asTextMorph <br>
> > beAllFont: ((TextStyle named: 'Darkmap DejaVu Sans') fontOfSize: 20); <br>
> > openInHand<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > That way, the name string can be easily exchanged, such as 'BitstreamVeraSans', or anything imported with the FontImporterTool<br>
> > <br>
> > I think the "TextFontReference toFont:" and explicit "addAttribute:" are a bit involved; maybe something akin to Text>>#makeBoldFrom:to:/Text>>#allBold would be nice.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Best regards<br>
> > -Tobias<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > > Also -- how can I disable editing of a TextMorph?<br>
> > > <br>
> > > See TextMorph >> #readOnly: or also Morph >> #lock to disable any interaction.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Best,<br>
> > > Christoph<br>
> > > Von: Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org>im Auftrag von Eric Gade
<eric.gade@gmail.com><br>
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. September 2020 17:01:45<br>
> > > An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list<br>
> > > Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] Inspector Custom Value Panes & Related<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Hi Christoph,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 7:32 PM Christoph Thiede <christoph.thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>
wrote:<br>
> > > <br>
> > > for displaying graphics in an inspector, have a look at MorphInspector (screenshot) or FormInspector (pixels). Custom interactive fields are not (yet?) supported, but in theory, you could subclass Inspector and override the relevant toolbuilder methods.
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> > > <br>
> > > I can't seem to find MorphInspector in a current (5.3 here) image. Is this a separate package?<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Regarding to your second question - why don't you use a TextMorphs? The composition of different formatting styles applied to a string is just what makes up a Text<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Aha, yes, I think I've looked into this before. I find the whole relationship between a Text and TextStyle a bit confusing, especially where it comes to setting Fonts. It appears that there are lots of different "kinds" of Fonts, and there's a good amount
of indirection so it's difficult to determine which kind of fonts (StrikeFont? TTFont?) "live" and how to see what's available and pick programmatically. Is there a good primer somewhere on Text/TextStyle? Also -- how can I disable editing of a TextMorph?
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> > > <br>
> > > Thanks again<br>
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