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<p><span>> Agreed. Elitism does not help at all. Ask Uncle Bob [1].</span><br>
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<p>Great talk, thanks a lot for sharing this!</p>
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<div class="x__rp_T4" id="x_Item.MessagePartBody">> <span style="font-size:12pt">Well I have lost track myself of how many of my Inbox submissions have </span><span style="font-size:12pt">actually been merged, or even been commented or not... even with a </span><span style="font-size:12pt">label
for them in Gmail I find it just too cumbersome to follow up and </span><span style="font-size:12pt">run after all of those that get no attention (and compared to you I </span><span style="font-size:12pt">don't submit all that many).</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span>
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<div>I have been trying a number of approaches, too, from todo lists over email folders to Trello boards, but it is simply too complex because it is a parallel data structure you have to maintain, and every interested person needs to maintain it themselves
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<div>This reminds me of the Primitive Obsession code smell: We all seem to think of the same model ("submission", "review", "fix", "close") but still use a forest of primitive artifacts (separate email posts/inbox versions) to represent them. Not exactly worthy
of a project that is dedicated to the Golden rule of "Everything is an object" and a universal object graph, I believe ... :-)</div>
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<div>> <span>The Inbox submission email can be far away from the Trunk merge email of the same version, just to give one example of another first world problem.</span></div>
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<div><span>That's a good observation. How expensive would it be to change SqueakSource so that Trunk merge emails are replied to their inbox ancestor email, if there is any? I tried to load SqueakSource into an image, but for now, I failed to resolve all the
dependencies ... (This should probably go into another thread.)</span></div>
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<div><span>> </span><span style="font-size:12pt">I think this must be something of a generational thing. Us Old Folk are, I suspect, much more likely to see it the other way round. A lot of us have lived on email for... well, about as long as humans have known
about electricity. Signing up on a website, on the other hand, seems really annoying and intrusive to me.</span><span>
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<div>Well I can tell that in my generation, mailing lists are definitively much more considered as obsolete and disliked. Everyone has a GitHub account (or if not yet, this costs you one minute for millions of projects) while for a mailing list, you have to
fill in a subscription form for every new project ... IMO email has failed in so many points where alternatives provide better solutions. How many "> > > > original post > > > quoted by me > > quoted by you > don't eat my quote characters!1", unwanted</div>
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<div>so, <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">different</span> <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif">
confusing</span> <span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS",Chalkboard,cursive">fonts</span> <span style="font-size:18pt">and sizes, </span><span style="font-size:12pt">and much more have I been reading in this list! Platforms have the uniform Markdown standard to
get rid of all this mess. Also, managing subscriptions for individual threads is so much easier on GitHub & Co. I think could carry on for a few more paragraphs, but that's probably not the point. :-)</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12pt">Best,</span></div>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 2. Oktober 2020 00:29:25<br>
<b>An:</b> The general-purpose Squeak developers list<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [squeak-dev] Development methodology (was: tedious programming-in-the-debugger error needs fixing)</font>
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> On 2020-10-01, at 3:13 PM, Jakob Reschke <forums.jakob@resfarm.de> wrote:<br>
> Also subscribing to<br>
> a mailing list feels somehow different than signing up on Stack Overflow or<br>
> GitHub.<br>
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I think this must be something of a generational thing. Us Old Folk are, I suspect, much more likely to see it the other way round. A lot of us have lived on email for... well, about as long as humans have known about electricity. Signing up on a website, on
the other hand, seems really annoying and intrusive to me.<br>
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