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<p>Thank you for reaching out in this manner on these issues. Though
be ye not concerned for my health, Ron, I am in a good place. The
sobbing really helps a LOT! And I was brought to that tonight
after screaming! And discussing a couple of my many suicide
attempts. And realizing the effect my not finding a home with
Squeak had affected me over 20 years. It hurts! I sob. All is
well; God is Good. The Truth heals. All praise to the Most High!</p>
<p>Kindly,<br/>
Rob<br/>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:16 AM, Ron Teitelbaum
wrote:<br/>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Rob,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">You have been
in this place before. Is there someone you can talk to for
help? Do you have a connection to someone that is working
with you on your issues? Would you consider calling them now?</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I've seen you
here before. I've seen you doing much better. You should be
good to yourself and get help now to move into calmer water
and get on a more even keel. A better future includes
protecting yourself, being nice to yourself, and making sure
you get help when you need it.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Don't wait
until later. I really recommend you do it now.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Ron</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 1:50 AM
Robert Withers <<a href="mailto:robert.withers@pm.me" moz-do-not-send="true">robert.withers@pm.me</a>> wrote:<br/>
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<div>
<h2><small>"And would not encourage the feeding of the
indigent!"</small></h2>
<div>On 10/2/20 12:21 AM, Robert Withers wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> The Hellfire and its occupants, not
my problem. I pay no attention. Burn.<br/>
<p>I "Will be in a life of bliss, In a Garden on high. The
Fruits whereof"...</p>
<hr width="100%" size="2"/>
<h1 align="center"><small>Al Haqqah (69)</small></h1>
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
<h2 align="center"><small>[The Sure Reality!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>What is the Sure Reality?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And what will make thee
realise what the Sure Reality is?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>The Thamud and the 'Ad
People (branded) as false the Stunning Calamity!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>But the Thamud,- they were
destroyed by a terrible Storm of thunder and
lightning!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the 'Ad, they were
destroyed by a furious Wind, exceedingly violent;</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>He made it rage against them
seven nights and eight days in succession: so that
thou couldst see the (whole) people lying
prostrate in its (path), as they had been roots of
hollow palm-trees tumbled down!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then seest thou any of them
left surviving?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And Pharaoh, and those
before him, and the Cities Overthrown, committed
habitual Sin.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And disobeyed (each) the
messenger of their Lord; so He punished them with
an abundant Penalty.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>We, when the water (of
Noah's Flood) overflowed beyond its limits,
carried you (mankind), in the floating (Ark),</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>That We might make it a
Message unto you, and that ears (that should hear
the tale and) retain its memory should bear its
(lessons) in remembrance.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then, when one blast is
sounded on the Trumpet,</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the earth is moved, and
its mountains, and they are crushed to powder at
one stroke,-</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>On that Day shall the
(Great) Event come to pass.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the sky will be rent
asunder, for it will that Day be flimsy,</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the angels will be on
its sides, and eight will, that Day, bear the
Throne of thy Lord above them.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>That Day shall ye be brought
to Judgment: not an act of yours that ye hide will
be hidden.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then he that will be given
his Record in his right hand will say: "Ah here!
Read ye my Record!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>"I did really understand
that my Account would (One Day) reach me!"</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And he will be in a life of
Bliss,</small></h2>
<div name="verse:69:22" align="center">
<div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113644">
<h2><small>In a Garden on high,</small></h2>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div name="verse:69:23" align="center">
<div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113645">
<h2><small>The Fruits whereof (will hang in
bunches) low and near.</small></h2>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113646" align="center">
<h2><small>"Eat ye and drink ye, with full
satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent
before you, in the days that are gone!"</small></h2>
<h2><small>And he that will be given his Record in
his left hand, will say: "Ah! Would that my
Record had not been given to me!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And that I had never realised how my
account (stood)!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Ah! Would that (Death) had made an end
of me!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Of no profit to me has been my wealth!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"My power has perished from me!"...</small></h2>
<h2><small>(The stern command will say): "Seize ye
him, and bind ye him,</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Further, make him march in a chain,
whereof the length is seventy cubits!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"This was he that would not believe in
Allah Most High.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And would not encourage the feeding of
the indigent!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"So no friend hath he here this Day.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Nor hath he any food except the
corruption from the washing of wounds,</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Which none do eat but those in sin."</small></h2>
<h2><small>So I do call to witness what ye see,</small></h2>
<h2><small>And what ye see not,</small></h2>
<h2><small>That this is verily the word of an
honoured messenger;</small></h2>
<h2><small>It is not the word of a poet: little it
is ye believe!</small></h2>
<h2><small>Nor is it the word of a soothsayer:
little admonition it is ye receive.</small></h2>
<h2><small>(This is) a Message sent down from the
Lord of the Worlds.</small></h2>
<h2><small>And if the messenger were to invent any
sayings in Our name,</small></h2>
<h2><small>We should certainly seize him by his
right hand,</small></h2>
<h2><small>And We should certainly then cut off the
artery of his heart:</small></h2>
<h2><small>Nor could any of you withhold him (from
Our wrath).</small></h2>
<h2><small>But verily this is a Message for the
Allah-fearing.</small></h2>
<h2><small>And We certainly know that there are
amongst you those that reject (it).</small></h2>
<h2><small>But truly (Revelation) is a cause of
sorrow for the Unbelievers.</small></h2>
<h2><small>But verily it is Truth of assured
certainty.</small></h2>
<h2><small>So glorify the name of thy Lord Most
High.</small></h2>
<h2><small>] - Quran 69:1-52<br/>
</small></h2>
</div>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<p>---<br/>
</p>
<p>Slosher<br/>
Oriental, NC<br/>
</p>
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<div>On 10/1/20 11:36 PM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:<br/>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi
Rob,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm
so sorry you felt that way. I know you have had
major issues, you have said the same yourself.
I'm always happy to see you come back even after
long absences. You are a brilliant coder and it
has been my distinct pleasure to work with you
on Cryptography! Thank you for all you have
done and indeed you are responsible for adding
significant value to Squeak and the community. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We
all work on code and it's easy to work your ass
off on something to make it work and forget
where it originated. We all contribute in large
and small ways to everything. If you started
VMMaker thank you! It is definitely something a
lot of us use. I remember learning all about it
a long long time ago before I realized that
while I could understand it and I could use it,
the people that work on the VM are a level
higher than me. I just make apps!</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
remember getting in an argument with Andreas
about adding methods to collection. "WE
DON"T NEED more methods in Collection we need to
remove most of them and make it easier!" I
argued with him about the value over and over
but he insisted that they just didn't add enough
value. I could have been put off. I could have
assumed that Andreas didn't like me but I would
have been very wrong! I was really honored to
get the chance to work with him and we became
great friends. Of course I added my methods to
the code we were working on together and was so
thrilled when he used my methods for his own
code.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">I don't know what
happened with VMMaker but again thank you for
your participation in it.. I wanted to take a
minute to thank you for your work and to let you
know it is my honor to work with you too! I
hope that you can come to terms with your past
and that you get the help you need for your
CPTSD. </div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Everything is possible,
the past is gone, but the future is still yours
to shape. I wish the past was set in stone but
even that moves and slips. I was talking to my
wife about a party we attended: "Remember in
2000 we were at the party and counted down the
new year and someone hit the breaker and killed
the lights! We were all talking about what
would happen in the year 2000, would everything
break!" Great story except that I hadn't met my
wife yet! The past is only what we remember but
the future is something we have control over.
Peace, calm, happyness, they are all hard to
come by but they are possible. I wish you
success in finding what makes your future
better.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">I'm sorry about the bad
things that have happened to you in the past.
As far as I'm concerned, you are welcomed
here! </div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">All the best,</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Ron Teitelbaum </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 1,
2020 at 10:38 PM Robert Withers via Squeak-dev
<<a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>
wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>:sob::sob::sob:<br/>
</p>
<div>On 10/1/20 10:34 PM, Robert Withers
wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p>I wrote to the #general Squeak Slack
channel:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
a complete larcenous bastard. 20 years
ago, this month, published it as his
own work. And been against me ever
since. My CPTSD (100% veteran
service-connected) comes with an
exquisitely sensitive deception meter.
There are those who shunned me and
ostracized me and made me feel MOST
UNWELCOME. For 20 years. My delusions
kick in and I start suspecting back
channel communications against me. My
love for Squeak conflicted with what I
knew was happening. but I hung in
there and worked on Cryptography, work
with a group of great people and that
I am satisfied with its added value to
Squeak. For 20 years I KNEW people
were against me in the community. I
cannot describe how negatively this
affected me. My third suicide attempt,
in 2007 I jumped off the roof of a 6
story apartment building and broke my
back along with many bones. God did
not want me to die, yet, so I lived.
This deception and ostracism is most
well highlighted by the taking credit
for my work, without attribution. He
is a complete tool. SHAME!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I
do not know the degree to which he
spoke against me. I<span> </span></span><b style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">imagine</b><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>it
was ever since 2000. Delusions! What
is real? I knew not. So much
torment! AGONY! They do not welcome
me! They are trying to chase me off!
Good grief, Charlie Brown.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Severely
exacerbated my CPTSD! I kept trying to
kill myself because of it! I thought I
had done something egregiously wrong.
Whatever it was it had to be my fault.
I was not feeling the love, even from
myself.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:</span></p>
<p><br/>
<span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">In
2017, 900 units of insulin brought
my blood glucose below 40. I almost
succeeded that time.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
</span></span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>rww<br/>
</p>
<div>On 10/1/20 8:55 PM, Robert Withers
wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>The worst sort of person is one who takes the credit for the work of
another. Wouldn't you agree?
You may wish to hear John's judgement on the matter. He was right there
when it was first built.
If you are not humble you will be humiliated, and brought low.
rww
On 10/1/20 8:35 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>On 2020-10-01, at 4:57 PM, Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org></a> wrote:
I am curious. Who was the original author of the VMMaker Tool?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>That would be me; back in exobox days. Written along with the original VMMaker and intended to be an example of clean, tidy, morphic usage. I've no idea if anyone ever uses it now, since running it via scripting has proven more valuable.
tim
--
tim Rowledge; <a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tim@rowledge.org</a>; <a href="http://www.rowledge.org/tim" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.rowledge.org/tim</a>
"Wibble" said Pooh the stress beginning to show.
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K, r<br/>
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K, r<br/>
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