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<p>Do you recall my interviewing with Andreas? I did <i><b>NOT NOT
NOT NADA ZILCH NOTHING TO SEE HERE</b></i> <i><b>ZERO TIME
FOR YOU</b></i> get that job, for whatever reason...</p>
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<p>Hi Ron,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for the kind words and the extension of your
hand towards myself. In no fashion has it been all bad. I really
need to tell you, right now, that I did not do any work on
VMMaker. Was there extensions to same from the VMMakerTool?
Perhaps, I do not recall. I only built the Tool, not the Maker.
Good grief, I agree, that's a whole other level! <br/>
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<p>I feel the same about the opportunities I had with you. I am
still dorking with ASN1, currently broken, trying to add a
"Class" Application Class tag. Missing an explicit context in on
of the directions. Memory and Trauma are definitely linked.
That's where the flashbacks come from. Do you recall my
interviewing with Andreas? I did <i><b>NOT NOT NOT NADA ZILCH
NOTHING TO SEE HERE</b></i> get that job, for whatever
reason...</p>
<p>I think I may be done. PromisesLocal is broken. ParrotTalk is
broken. ASN1 is broken. SSL is broken. PromisesRemote is broken.
Sigh. Fuck it. Someone else will have to pick it up. 20 years of
work! I am hitting deep blue ocean, on my way to Morocco, by way
of the Azores! With my shiny Zeus 3! Ciao, bella!<br/>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm so
sorry you felt that way. I know you have had major issues,
you have said the same yourself. I'm always happy to see
you come back even after long absences. You are a
brilliant coder and it has been my distinct pleasure to work
with you on Cryptography! Thank you for all you have done
and indeed you are responsible for adding significant value
to Squeak and the community. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We all work
on code and it's easy to work your ass off on something to
make it work and forget where it originated. We all
contribute in large and small ways to everything. If you
started VMMaker thank you! It is definitely something a lot
of us use. I remember learning all about it a long long
time ago before I realized that while I could understand it
and I could use it, the people that work on the VM are a
level higher than me. I just make apps!</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I remember
getting in an argument with Andreas about adding methods to
collection. "WE DON"T NEED more methods in Collection we
need to remove most of them and make it easier!" I argued
with him about the value over and over but he insisted that
they just didn't add enough value. I could have been put
off. I could have assumed that Andreas didn't like me but I
would have been very wrong! I was really honored to get the
chance to work with him and we became great friends. Of
course I added my methods to the code we were working on
together and was so thrilled when he used my methods for his
own code.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="">I don't know what happened
with VMMaker but again thank you for your participation
in it.. I wanted to take a minute to thank you for your work
and to let you know it is my honor to work with you too! I
hope that you can come to terms with your past and that you
get the help you need for your CPTSD. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="">Everything is possible,
the past is gone, but the future is still yours to shape. I
wish the past was set in stone but even that moves and
slips. I was talking to my wife about a party we attended:
"Remember in 2000 we were at the party and counted down the
new year and someone hit the breaker and killed the lights!
We were all talking about what would happen in the year
2000, would everything break!" Great story except that I
hadn't met my wife yet! The past is only what we remember
but the future is something we have control over. Peace,
calm, happyness, they are all hard to come by but they are
possible. I wish you success in finding what makes your
future better.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="">I'm sorry about the bad
things that have happened to you in the past. As far as I'm
concerned, you are welcomed here! </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="">All the best,</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="">Ron Teitelbaum </div>
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PM Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <<a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" moz-do-not-send="true">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>
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<p>:sob::sob::sob:<br/>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
a complete larcenous bastard. 20 years ago, this
month, published it as his own work. And been
against me ever since. My CPTSD (100% veteran
service-connected) comes with an exquisitely
sensitive deception meter. There are those who
shunned me and ostracized me and made me feel MOST
UNWELCOME. For 20 years. My delusions kick in and
I start suspecting back channel communications
against me. My love for Squeak conflicted with
what I knew was happening. but I hung in there and
worked on Cryptography, work with a group of great
people and that I am satisfied with its added
value to Squeak. For 20 years I KNEW people were
against me in the community. I cannot describe how
negatively this affected me. My third suicide
attempt, in 2007 I jumped off the roof of a 6
story apartment building and broke my back along
with many bones. God did not want me to die, yet,
so I lived. This deception and ostracism is most
well highlighted by the taking credit for my work,
without attribution. He is a complete tool. SHAME!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I
do not know the degree to which he spoke against
me. I<span> </span></span><b style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">imagine</b><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>it
was ever since 2000. Delusions! What is real? I
knew not. So much torment! AGONY! They do not
welcome me! They are trying to chase me off!
Good grief, Charlie Brown.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Severely
exacerbated my CPTSD! I kept trying to kill myself
because of it! I thought I had done something
egregiously wrong. Whatever it was it had to be my
fault. I was not feeling the love, even from
myself.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:</span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">In
2017, 900 units of insulin brought my blood
glucose below 40. I almost succeeded that time.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
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<pre>The worst sort of person is one who takes the credit for the work of
another. Wouldn't you agree?
You may wish to hear John's judgement on the matter. He was right there
when it was first built.
If you are not humble you will be humiliated, and brought low.
rww
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I am curious. Who was the original author of the VMMaker Tool?
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<pre>That would be me; back in exobox days. Written along with the original VMMaker and intended to be an example of clean, tidy, morphic usage. I've no idea if anyone ever uses it now, since running it via scripting has proven more valuable.
tim
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"Wibble" said Pooh the stress beginning to show.
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