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    <p>Note. The onset of itching is a sure indicator.<br/>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 12:44 AM, Robert Withers
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 12:20 AM, Eliot Miranda
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          <blockquote type="cite">On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Ron
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Rob,</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm so
                sorry you felt that way.  I know you have had major
                issues, you have said the same yourself.  I'm always
                happy to see you come back even after long absences. 
                You are a brilliant coder and it has been my distinct
                pleasure to work with you on Cryptography!  Thank you
                for all you have done and indeed you are responsible for
                adding significant value to Squeak and the community.  </div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We all
                work on code and it's easy to work your ass off on
                something to make it work and forget where it
                originated.  We all contribute in large and small ways
                to everything.  If you started VMMaker thank you!  It is
                definitely something a lot of us use.  I remember
                learning all about it a long long time ago before I
                realized that while I could understand it and I could
                use it, the people that work on the VM are a level
                higher than me.  I just make apps!</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
                remember getting in an argument with Andreas about
                adding methods to collection.  "WE DON"T NEED more
                methods in Collection we need to remove most of them and
                make it easier!" I argued with him about the value over
                and over but he insisted that they just didn't add
                enough value.  I could have been put off.  I could have
                assumed that Andreas didn't like me but I would have
                been very wrong!  I was really honored to get the chance
                to work with him and we became great friends.  Of course
                I added my methods to the code we were working on
                together and was so thrilled when he used my methods for
                his own code.</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="">I don't know what
                happened with VMMaker but again thank you for
                your participation in it.. I wanted to take a minute to
                thank you for your work and to let you know it is my
                honor to work with you too!  I hope that you can come to
                terms with your past and that you get the help you need
                for your CPTSD.  </div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="">Everything is
                possible, the past is gone, but the future is still
                yours to shape.  I wish the past was set in stone but
                even that moves and slips.  I was talking to my wife
                about a party we attended: "Remember in 2000 we were at
                the party and counted down the new year and someone hit
                the breaker and killed the lights!  We were all talking
                about what would happen in the year 2000, would
                everything break!"  Great story except that I hadn't met
                my wife yet!  The past is only what we remember but the
                future is something we have control over.  Peace, calm,
                happyness, they are all hard to come by but they are
                possible.  I wish you success in finding what makes your
                future better.</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="">I'm sorry about the
                bad things that have happened to you in the past.  As
                far as I'm concerned, you are welcomed here!  </div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="">All the best,</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="">Ron Teitelbaum </div>
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        Beautifully said, Ron.  And Rob, I hope you find peace with
        this.  It’s difficult; I know.  Hugs.</blockquote>
      Thanks, Eliot! I had to rip my heart completely apart, laid bare.
      So the scabs would heal right. I kept picking and picking and
      picking. They itched like HELL!<br/>
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                  10:38 PM Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <<a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" moz-do-not-send="true">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>
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                    <div>On 10/1/20 10:34 PM, Robert Withers wrote:<br/>
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                      <p>I wrote to the #general Squeak Slack channel:</p>
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                        <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
                            a complete larcenous bastard. 20 years ago,
                            this month, published it as his own work.
                            And been against me ever since. My CPTSD
                            (100% veteran service-connected) comes with
                            an exquisitely sensitive deception meter.
                            There are those who shunned me and
                            ostracized me and made me feel MOST
                            UNWELCOME. For  20 years. My delusions kick
                            in and I start suspecting back channel
                            communications against me. My love for
                            Squeak conflicted with what I knew was
                            happening. but I hung in there and worked on
                            Cryptography, work with a group of great
                            people and that I am satisfied with its
                            added value to Squeak. For 20 years I KNEW
                            people were against me in the community. I
                            cannot describe how negatively this affected
                            me. My third suicide attempt, in 2007 I
                            jumped off the roof of a 6 story apartment
                            building and broke my back along with many
                            bones. God did not want me to die, yet, so I
                            lived. This deception and ostracism is most
                            well highlighted by the taking credit for my
                            work, without attribution. He is a complete
                            tool. SHAME!</span></p>
                        <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I
                              do not know the degree to which he spoke
                              against me. I<span> </span></span><b style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">imagine</b><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>it
                              was ever since 2000. Delusions! What is
                              real? I knew not. So much torment! AGONY!
                              They do not welcome me! They are trying to
                              chase me off! Good grief, Charlie Brown.</span></span></p>
                        <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Severely
                            exacerbated my CPTSD! I kept trying to kill
                            myself because of it! I thought I had done
                            something egregiously wrong. Whatever it was
                            it had to be my fault. I was not feeling the
                            love, even from myself.</span></p>
                        <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
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                        <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:</span></p>
                        <p><br/>
                          <span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">In
                              2017, 900 units of insulin brought my
                              blood glucose below 40. I almost succeeded
                              that time.</span></span></p>
                        <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
                            </span></span></p>
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                      <p>rww<br/>
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                      <div>On 10/1/20 8:55 PM, Robert Withers wrote:<br/>
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                        <pre>The worst sort of person is one who takes the credit for the work of
another. Wouldn't you agree?

You may wish to hear John's judgement on the matter. He was right there
when it was first built.

If you are not humble you will be humiliated, and brought low.

rww

On 10/1/20 8:35 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
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                            <pre>On 2020-10-01, at 4:57 PM, Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org></a> wrote:

I am curious. Who was the original author of the VMMaker Tool?
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                          <pre>That would be me; back in exobox days. Written along with the original VMMaker and intended to be an example of clean, tidy, morphic usage. I've no idea if anyone ever uses it now, since running it via scripting has proven more valuable.


tim
--
tim Rowledge; <a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tim@rowledge.org</a>; <a href="http://www.rowledge.org/tim" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.rowledge.org/tim</a>
"Wibble" said Pooh the stress beginning to show.



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                        K, r<br/>
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                      K, r<br/>
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