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        <blockquote type="cite">On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Ron
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Rob,</div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm so
              sorry you felt that way.  I know you have had major
              issues, you have said the same yourself.  I'm always happy
              to see you come back even after long absences.  You are a
              brilliant coder and it has been my distinct pleasure to
              work with you on Cryptography!  Thank you for all you have
              done and indeed you are responsible for adding significant
              value to Squeak and the community.  </div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We all
              work on code and it's easy to work your ass off on
              something to make it work and forget where it originated. 
              We all contribute in large and small ways to everything. 
              If you started VMMaker thank you!  It is definitely
              something a lot of us use.  I remember learning all about
              it a long long time ago before I realized that while I
              could understand it and I could use it, the people that
              work on the VM are a level higher than me.  I just make
              apps!</div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
              remember getting in an argument with Andreas about adding
              methods to collection.  "WE DON"T NEED more methods in
              Collection we need to remove most of them and make it
              easier!" I argued with him about the value over and over
              but he insisted that they just didn't add enough value.  I
              could have been put off.  I could have assumed that
              Andreas didn't like me but I would have been very wrong! 
              I was really honored to get the chance to work with him
              and we became great friends.  Of course I added my methods
              to the code we were working on together and was so
              thrilled when he used my methods for his own code.</div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="">I don't know what
              happened with VMMaker but again thank you for
              your participation in it.. I wanted to take a minute to
              thank you for your work and to let you know it is my honor
              to work with you too!  I hope that you can come to terms
              with your past and that you get the help you need for your
              CPTSD.  </div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="">Everything is possible,
              the past is gone, but the future is still yours to shape. 
              I wish the past was set in stone but even that moves and
              slips.  I was talking to my wife about a party we
              attended: "Remember in 2000 we were at the party and
              counted down the new year and someone hit the breaker and
              killed the lights!  We were all talking about what would
              happen in the year 2000, would everything break!"  Great
              story except that I hadn't met my wife yet!  The past is
              only what we remember but the future is something we have
              control over.  Peace, calm, happyness, they are all hard
              to come by but they are possible.  I wish you success in
              finding what makes your future better.</div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="">I'm sorry about the bad
              things that have happened to you in the past.  As far as
              I'm concerned, you are welcomed here!  </div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="">All the best,</div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="">Ron Teitelbaum </div>
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      Beautifully said, Ron.  And Rob, I hope you find peace with this.
       It’s difficult; I know.  Hugs.</blockquote>
    Thanks, Eliot! I had to rip my heart completely apart, laid bare. So
    the scabs would heal right. I kept picking and picking and picking.
    They itched like HELL!<br/>
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                10:38 PM Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <<a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" moz-do-not-send="true">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>
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                  <div>On 10/1/20 10:34 PM, Robert Withers wrote:<br/>
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                    <p>I wrote to the #general Squeak Slack channel:</p>
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                      <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
                          a complete larcenous bastard. 20 years ago,
                          this month, published it as his own work. And
                          been against me ever since. My CPTSD (100%
                          veteran service-connected) comes with an
                          exquisitely sensitive deception meter. There
                          are those who shunned me and ostracized me and
                          made me feel MOST UNWELCOME. For  20 years. My
                          delusions kick in and I start suspecting back
                          channel communications against me. My love for
                          Squeak conflicted with what I knew was
                          happening. but I hung in there and worked on
                          Cryptography, work with a group of great
                          people and that I am satisfied with its added
                          value to Squeak. For 20 years I KNEW people
                          were against me in the community. I cannot
                          describe how negatively this affected me. My
                          third suicide attempt, in 2007 I jumped off
                          the roof of a 6 story apartment building and
                          broke my back along with many bones. God did
                          not want me to die, yet, so I lived. This
                          deception and ostracism is most well
                          highlighted by the taking credit for my work,
                          without attribution. He is a complete tool.
                          SHAME!</span></p>
                      <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I
                            do not know the degree to which he spoke
                            against me. I<span> </span></span><b style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">imagine</b><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>it
                            was ever since 2000. Delusions! What is
                            real? I knew not. So much torment! AGONY!
                            They do not welcome me! They are trying to
                            chase me off! Good grief, Charlie Brown.</span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Severely
                          exacerbated my CPTSD! I kept trying to kill
                          myself because of it! I thought I had done
                          something egregiously wrong. Whatever it was
                          it had to be my fault. I was not feeling the
                          love, even from myself.</span></p>
                      <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
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                      <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:</span></p>
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                        <span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">In
                            2017, 900 units of insulin brought my blood
                            glucose below 40. I almost succeeded that
                            time.</span></span></p>
                      <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
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                      <pre>The worst sort of person is one who takes the credit for the work of
another. Wouldn't you agree?

You may wish to hear John's judgement on the matter. He was right there
when it was first built.

If you are not humble you will be humiliated, and brought low.

rww

On 10/1/20 8:35 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
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                          <pre>On 2020-10-01, at 4:57 PM, Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org></a> wrote:

I am curious. Who was the original author of the VMMaker Tool?
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                        <pre>That would be me; back in exobox days. Written along with the original VMMaker and intended to be an example of clean, tidy, morphic usage. I've no idea if anyone ever uses it now, since running it via scripting has proven more valuable.


tim
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tim Rowledge; <a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tim@rowledge.org</a>; <a href="http://www.rowledge.org/tim" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.rowledge.org/tim</a>
"Wibble" said Pooh the stress beginning to show.



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