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<p>I haven't heard from sparky, recently. Has anyone?<br/>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 3:03 AM, Robert Withers
wrote:<br/>
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<p>Gotta meditate to this entire run! It's deep.<br/>
<br/>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://soundcloud.com/yusuke-mizushima/acid-jazz-mix-jazzual-suspects" moz-do-not-send="true">https://soundcloud.com/yusuke-mizushima/acid-jazz-mix-jazzual-suspects</a><br/>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:50 AM, Robert Withers
via Squeak-dev wrote:<br/>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://soundcloud.com/robert_withers/rasta" moz-do-not-send="true">https://soundcloud.com/robert_withers/rasta</a></p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://soundcloud.com/robert_withers/mando" moz-do-not-send="true">https://soundcloud.com/robert_withers/mando</a><br/>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:39 AM, Robert Withers
wrote:<br/>
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<p>Play a bit of these spicy beats! The music helps me to
express what is on the inside.<br/>
</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://youtu.be/3q8nGnls1Ow?t=2711" moz-do-not-send="true">https://youtu.be/3q8nGnls1Ow?t=2711</a><br/>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:26 AM, Robert
Withers wrote:<br/>
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<p><i><span id="en-KJV-19685" class="text Jer-30-17">For I
will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of
thy wounds, saith the <span style="font-variant:
small-caps" class="small-caps">Lord</span>; because
they called thee an Outcast, saying, This is Zion,
whom no man seeketh after.</span></i></p>
<p><i><span id="en-KJV-19685" class="text Jer-30-17"><b>Jeremiah
30:17</b><br/>
</span></i></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:22 AM, Robert
Withers via Squeak-dev wrote:<br/>
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<p>Thank you for reaching out in this manner on these
issues. Though be ye not concerned for my health, Ron, I
am in a good place. The sobbing really helps a LOT! And
I was brought to that tonight after screaming! And
discussing a couple of my many suicide attempts. And
realizing the effect my not finding a home with Squeak
had affected me over 20 years. It hurts! I sob. All is
well; God is Good. The Truth heals. All praise to the
Most High!</p>
<p>Kindly,<br/>
Rob<br/>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:16 AM, Ron
Teitelbaum wrote:<br/>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Rob,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">You
have been in this place before. Is there someone
you can talk to for help? Do you have a connection
to someone that is working with you on your issues?
Would you consider calling them now?</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I've
seen you here before. I've seen you doing much
better. You should be good to yourself and get help
now to move into calmer water and get on a more even
keel. A better future includes protecting yourself,
being nice to yourself, and making sure you get help
when you need it.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Don't
wait until later. I really recommend you do it now.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Ron</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 2, 2020
at 1:50 AM Robert Withers <<a href="mailto:robert.withers@pm.me" moz-do-not-send="true">robert.withers@pm.me</a>>
wrote:<br/>
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<h2><small>"And would not encourage the feeding of
the indigent!"</small></h2>
<div>On 10/2/20 12:21 AM, Robert Withers wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> The Hellfire and its
occupants, not my problem. I pay no attention.
Burn.<br/>
<p>I "Will be in a life of bliss, In a Garden on
high. The Fruits whereof"...</p>
<hr width="100%" size="2"/>
<h1 align="center"><small>Al Haqqah (69)</small></h1>
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
<h2 align="center"><small>[The Sure Reality!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>What is the Sure
Reality?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And what will make
thee realise what the Sure Reality is?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>The Thamud and the
'Ad People (branded) as false the
Stunning Calamity!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>But the Thamud,-
they were destroyed by a terrible Storm
of thunder and lightning!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the 'Ad, they
were destroyed by a furious Wind,
exceedingly violent;</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>He made it rage
against them seven nights and eight days
in succession: so that thou couldst see
the (whole) people lying prostrate in
its (path), as they had been roots of
hollow palm-trees tumbled down!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then seest thou
any of them left surviving?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And Pharaoh, and
those before him, and the Cities
Overthrown, committed habitual Sin.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And disobeyed
(each) the messenger of their Lord; so
He punished them with an abundant
Penalty.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>We, when the water
(of Noah's Flood) overflowed beyond its
limits, carried you (mankind), in the
floating (Ark),</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>That We might make
it a Message unto you, and that ears
(that should hear the tale and) retain
its memory should bear its (lessons) in
remembrance.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then, when one
blast is sounded on the Trumpet,</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the earth is
moved, and its mountains, and they are
crushed to powder at one stroke,-</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>On that Day shall
the (Great) Event come to pass.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the sky will
be rent asunder, for it will that Day be
flimsy,</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the angels
will be on its sides, and eight will,
that Day, bear the Throne of thy Lord
above them.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>That Day shall ye
be brought to Judgment: not an act of
yours that ye hide will be hidden.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then he that will
be given his Record in his right hand
will say: "Ah here! Read ye my Record!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>"I did really
understand that my Account would (One
Day) reach me!"</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And he will be in
a life of Bliss,</small></h2>
<div name="verse:69:22" align="center">
<div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113644">
<h2><small>In a Garden on high,</small></h2>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div name="verse:69:23" align="center">
<div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113645">
<h2><small>The Fruits whereof (will
hang in bunches) low and near.</small></h2>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113646" align="center">
<h2><small>"Eat ye and drink ye, with full
satisfaction; because of the (good)
that ye sent before you, in the days
that are gone!"</small></h2>
<h2><small>And he that will be given his
Record in his left hand, will say:
"Ah! Would that my Record had not been
given to me!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And that I had never realised
how my account (stood)!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Ah! Would that (Death) had
made an end of me!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Of no profit to me has been my
wealth!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"My power has perished from
me!"...</small></h2>
<h2><small>(The stern command will say):
"Seize ye him, and bind ye him,</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And burn ye him in the Blazing
Fire.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Further, make him march in a
chain, whereof the length is seventy
cubits!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"This was he that would not
believe in Allah Most High.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And would not encourage the
feeding of the indigent!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"So no friend hath he here this
Day.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Nor hath he any food except
the corruption from the washing of
wounds,</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Which none do eat but those in
sin."</small></h2>
<h2><small>So I do call to witness what ye
see,</small></h2>
<h2><small>And what ye see not,</small></h2>
<h2><small>That this is verily the word of
an honoured messenger;</small></h2>
<h2><small>It is not the word of a poet:
little it is ye believe!</small></h2>
<h2><small>Nor is it the word of a
soothsayer: little admonition it is ye
receive.</small></h2>
<h2><small>(This is) a Message sent down
from the Lord of the Worlds.</small></h2>
<h2><small>And if the messenger were to
invent any sayings in Our name,</small></h2>
<h2><small>We should certainly seize him
by his right hand,</small></h2>
<h2><small>And We should certainly then
cut off the artery of his heart:</small></h2>
<h2><small>Nor could any of you withhold
him (from Our wrath).</small></h2>
<h2><small>But verily this is a Message
for the Allah-fearing.</small></h2>
<h2><small>And We certainly know that
there are amongst you those that
reject (it).</small></h2>
<h2><small>But truly (Revelation) is a
cause of sorrow for the Unbelievers.</small></h2>
<h2><small>But verily it is Truth of
assured certainty.</small></h2>
<h2><small>So glorify the name of thy Lord
Most High.</small></h2>
<h2><small>] - Quran 69:1-52<br/>
</small></h2>
</div>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<p>---<br/>
</p>
<p>Slosher<br/>
Oriental, NC<br/>
</p>
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<div>On 10/1/20 11:36 PM, Ron Teitelbaum
wrote:<br/>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Rob,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm so sorry
you felt that way. I know you have
had major issues, you have said the
same yourself. I'm always happy to
see you come back even after long
absences. You are a brilliant coder
and it has been my distinct pleasure
to work with you on Cryptography!
Thank you for all you have done and
indeed you are responsible for adding
significant value to Squeak and the
community. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We all work on
code and it's easy to work your ass
off on something to make it work and
forget where it originated. We all
contribute in large and small ways to
everything. If you started VMMaker
thank you! It is definitely something
a lot of us use. I remember learning
all about it a long long time ago
before I realized that while I could
understand it and I could use it, the
people that work on the VM are a level
higher than me. I just make apps!</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I remember
getting in an argument with Andreas
about adding methods to collection.
"WE DON"T NEED more methods in
Collection we need to remove most of
them and make it easier!" I argued
with him about the value over and over
but he insisted that they just didn't
add enough value. I could have been
put off. I could have assumed that
Andreas didn't like me but I would
have been very wrong! I was really
honored to get the chance to work with
him and we became great friends. Of
course I added my methods to the code
we were working on together and was so
thrilled when he used my methods for
his own code.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">I don't know
what happened with VMMaker but again
thank you for your participation
in it.. I wanted to take a minute to
thank you for your work and to let you
know it is my honor to work with you
too! I hope that you can come to
terms with your past and that you get
the help you need for your CPTSD. </div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Everything is
possible, the past is gone, but the
future is still yours to shape. I
wish the past was set in stone but
even that moves and slips. I was
talking to my wife about a party we
attended: "Remember in 2000 we were at
the party and counted down the new
year and someone hit the breaker and
killed the lights! We were all
talking about what would happen in the
year 2000, would everything break!"
Great story except that I hadn't met
my wife yet! The past is only what we
remember but the future is something
we have control over. Peace, calm,
happyness, they are all hard to come
by but they are possible. I wish you
success in finding what makes your
future better.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">I'm sorry
about the bad things that have
happened to you in the past. As far
as I'm concerned, you are welcomed
here! </div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">All the best,</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Ron
Teitelbaum </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
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</div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 10:38 PM Robert
Withers via Squeak-dev <<a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>
wrote:<br/>
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<p>:sob::sob::sob:<br/>
</p>
<div>On 10/1/20 10:34 PM, Robert
Withers wrote:<br/>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<p>I wrote to the #general Squeak
Slack channel:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
a complete larcenous
bastard. 20 years ago, this
month, published it as his
own work. And been against
me ever since. My CPTSD
(100% veteran
service-connected) comes
with an exquisitely
sensitive deception meter.
There are those who shunned
me and ostracized me and
made me feel MOST UNWELCOME.
For 20 years. My delusions
kick in and I start
suspecting back channel
communications against me.
My love for Squeak
conflicted with what I knew
was happening. but I hung in
there and worked on
Cryptography, work with a
group of great people and
that I am satisfied with its
added value to Squeak. For
20 years I KNEW people were
against me in the community.
I cannot describe how
negatively this affected me.
My third suicide attempt, in
2007 I jumped off the roof
of a 6 story apartment
building and broke my back
along with many bones. God
did not want me to die, yet,
so I lived. This deception
and ostracism is most well
highlighted by the taking
credit for my work, without
attribution. He is a
complete tool. SHAME!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I
do not know the degree to
which he spoke against me.
I<span> </span></span><b style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">imagine</b><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>it
was ever since 2000.
Delusions! What is real? I
knew not. So much torment!
AGONY! They do not welcome
me! They are trying to
chase me off! Good grief,
Charlie Brown.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Severely
exacerbated my CPTSD! I kept
trying to kill myself
because of it! I thought I
had done something
egregiously wrong. Whatever
it was it had to be my
fault. I was not feeling the
love, even from myself.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:</span></p>
<p><br/>
<span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">In
2017, 900 units of insulin
brought my blood glucose
below 40. I almost
succeeded that time.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
</span></span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>rww<br/>
</p>
<div>On 10/1/20 8:55 PM, Robert
Withers wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>The worst sort of person is one who takes the credit for the work of
another. Wouldn't you agree?
You may wish to hear John's judgement on the matter. He was right there
when it was first built.
If you are not humble you will be humiliated, and brought low.
rww
On 10/1/20 8:35 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
</pre>
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<pre>On 2020-10-01, at 4:57 PM, Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org></a> wrote:
I am curious. Who was the original author of the VMMaker Tool?
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<pre>That would be me; back in exobox days. Written along with the original VMMaker and intended to be an example of clean, tidy, morphic usage. I've no idea if anyone ever uses it now, since running it via scripting has proven more valuable.
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