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    <p><i><span id="en-KJV-19685" class="text Jer-30-17">For I will
          restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds,
          saith the <span style="font-variant: small-caps" class="small-caps">Lord</span>; because they called thee an
          Outcast, saying, This is Zion, whom no man seeketh after.</span></i></p>
    <p><i><span id="en-KJV-19685" class="text Jer-30-17"><b>Jeremiah
            30:17</b><br/>
        </span></i></p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:22 AM, Robert Withers via
      Squeak-dev wrote:<br/>
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      <p>Thank you for reaching out in this manner on these issues.
        Though be ye not concerned for my health, Ron, I am in a good
        place. The sobbing really helps a LOT! And I was brought to that
        tonight after screaming! And discussing a couple of my many
        suicide attempts. And realizing the effect my not finding a home
        with Squeak had affected me over 20 years. It hurts! I sob. All
        is well; God is Good. The Truth heals. All praise to the Most
        High!</p>
      <p>Kindly,<br/>
        Rob<br/>
      </p>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:16 AM, Ron Teitelbaum
        wrote:<br/>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAEzdQ-eVFuG-ruo7WYhTh3JfKNv9MvK5zFXUAtCewgX1xuh=RA@mail.gmail.com">
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Rob,</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">You have
            been in this place before.  Is there someone you can talk to
            for help?  Do you have a connection to someone that is
            working with you on your issues?  Would you consider calling
            them now?</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I've seen
            you here before.  I've seen you doing much better.  You
            should be good to yourself and get help now to move into
            calmer water and get on a more even keel.  A better future
            includes protecting yourself, being nice to yourself, and
            making sure you get help when you need it.</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Don't wait
            until later.  I really recommend you do it now.</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Ron</div>
        </div>
        <br/>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 1:50
            AM Robert Withers <<a href="mailto:robert.withers@pm.me" moz-do-not-send="true">robert.withers@pm.me</a>> wrote:<br/>
          </div>
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            <div>
              <h2><small>"And would not encourage the feeding of the
                  indigent!"</small></h2>
              <div>On 10/2/20 12:21 AM, Robert Withers wrote:<br/>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite"> The Hellfire and its occupants,
                not my problem. I pay no attention. Burn.<br/>
                <p>I "Will be in a life of bliss, In a Garden on high.
                  The Fruits whereof"...</p>
                <hr width="100%" size="2"/>
                <h1 align="center"><small>Al Haqqah (69)</small></h1>
                <blockquote>
                  <blockquote>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>[The Sure Reality!</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>What is the Sure Reality?</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>And what will make thee
                        realise what the Sure Reality is?</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>The Thamud and the 'Ad
                        People (branded) as false the Stunning Calamity!</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>But the Thamud,- they were
                        destroyed by a terrible Storm of thunder and
                        lightning!</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>And the 'Ad, they were
                        destroyed by a furious Wind, exceedingly
                        violent;</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>He made it rage against
                        them seven nights and eight days in succession:
                        so that thou couldst see the (whole) people
                        lying prostrate in its (path), as they had been
                        roots of hollow palm-trees tumbled down!</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>Then seest thou any of
                        them left surviving?</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>And Pharaoh, and those
                        before him, and the Cities Overthrown, committed
                        habitual Sin.</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>And disobeyed (each) the
                        messenger of their Lord; so He punished them
                        with an abundant Penalty.</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>We, when the water (of
                        Noah's Flood) overflowed beyond its limits,
                        carried you (mankind), in the floating (Ark),</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>That We might make it a
                        Message unto you, and that ears (that should
                        hear the tale and) retain its memory should bear
                        its (lessons) in remembrance.</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>Then, when one blast is
                        sounded on the Trumpet,</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>And the earth is moved,
                        and its mountains, and they are crushed to
                        powder at one stroke,-</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>On that Day shall the
                        (Great) Event come to pass.</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>And the sky will be rent
                        asunder, for it will that Day be flimsy,</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>And the angels will be on
                        its sides, and eight will, that Day, bear the
                        Throne of thy Lord above them.</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>That Day shall ye be
                        brought to Judgment: not an act of yours that ye
                        hide will be hidden.</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>Then he that will be given
                        his Record in his right hand will say: "Ah here!
                        Read ye my Record!</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>"I did really understand
                        that my Account would (One Day) reach me!"</small></h2>
                    <h2 align="center"><small>And he will be in a life
                        of Bliss,</small></h2>
                    <div name="verse:69:22" align="center">
                      <div>
                        <div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113644">
                          <h2><small>In a Garden on high,</small></h2>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div name="verse:69:23" align="center">
                      <div>
                        <div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113645">
                          <h2><small>The Fruits whereof (will hang in
                              bunches) low and near.</small></h2>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113646" align="center">
                      <h2><small>"Eat ye and drink ye, with full
                          satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye
                          sent before you, in the days that are gone!"</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>And he that will be given his Record in
                          his left hand, will say: "Ah! Would that my
                          Record had not been given to me!</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>"And that I had never realised how my
                          account (stood)!</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>"Ah! Would that (Death) had made an end
                          of me!</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>"Of no profit to me has been my wealth!</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>"My power has perished from me!"...</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>(The stern command will say): "Seize ye
                          him, and bind ye him,</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>"And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire.</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>"Further, make him march in a chain,
                          whereof the length is seventy cubits!</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>"This was he that would not believe in
                          Allah Most High.</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>"And would not encourage the feeding of
                          the indigent!</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>"So no friend hath he here this Day.</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>"Nor hath he any food except the
                          corruption from the washing of wounds,</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>"Which none do eat but those in sin."</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>So I do call to witness what ye see,</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>And what ye see not,</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>That this is verily the word of an
                          honoured messenger;</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>It is not the word of a poet: little it
                          is ye believe!</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>Nor is it the word of a soothsayer:
                          little admonition it is ye receive.</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>(This is) a Message sent down from the
                          Lord of the Worlds.</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>And if the messenger were to invent any
                          sayings in Our name,</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>We should certainly seize him by his
                          right hand,</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>And We should certainly then cut off
                          the artery of his heart:</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>Nor could any of you withhold him (from
                          Our wrath).</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>But verily this is a Message for the
                          Allah-fearing.</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>And We certainly know that there are
                          amongst you those that reject (it).</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>But truly (Revelation) is a cause of
                          sorrow for the Unbelievers.</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>But verily it is Truth of assured
                          certainty.</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>So glorify the name of thy Lord Most
                          High.</small></h2>
                      <h2><small>] - Quran 69:1-52<br/>
                        </small></h2>
                    </div>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
                <p>---<br/>
                </p>
                <p>Slosher<br/>
                  Oriental, NC<br/>
                </p>
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                    <br/>
                    <div>On 10/1/20 11:36 PM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:<br/>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Rob,</div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm so sorry you felt
                          that way.  I know you have had major issues,
                          you have said the same yourself.  I'm always
                          happy to see you come back even after long
                          absences.  You are a brilliant coder and it
                          has been my distinct pleasure to work with you
                          on Cryptography!  Thank you for all you have
                          done and indeed you are responsible for adding
                          significant value to Squeak and the
                          community.  </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We all work on code
                          and it's easy to work your ass off on
                          something to make it work and forget where it
                          originated.  We all contribute in large and
                          small ways to everything.  If you started
                          VMMaker thank you!  It is definitely something
                          a lot of us use.  I remember learning all
                          about it a long long time ago before I
                          realized that while I could understand it and
                          I could use it, the people that work on the VM
                          are a level higher than me.  I just make apps!</div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I remember getting in
                          an argument with Andreas about adding methods
                          to collection.  "WE DON"T NEED more methods in
                          Collection we need to remove most of them and
                          make it easier!" I argued with him about the
                          value over and over but he insisted that they
                          just didn't add enough value.  I could have
                          been put off.  I could have assumed that
                          Andreas didn't like me but I would have been
                          very wrong!  I was really honored to get the
                          chance to work with him and we became great
                          friends.  Of course I added my methods to the
                          code we were working on together and was so
                          thrilled when he used my methods for his own
                          code.</div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default">I don't know what
                          happened with VMMaker but again thank you for
                          your participation in it.. I wanted to take a
                          minute to thank you for your work and to let
                          you know it is my honor to work with you too! 
                          I hope that you can come to terms with your
                          past and that you get the help you need for
                          your CPTSD.  </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default"><br/>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default">Everything is
                          possible, the past is gone, but the future is
                          still yours to shape.  I wish the past was set
                          in stone but even that moves and slips.  I was
                          talking to my wife about a party we attended:
                          "Remember in 2000 we were at the party and
                          counted down the new year and someone hit the
                          breaker and killed the lights!  We were all
                          talking about what would happen in the year
                          2000, would everything break!"  Great story
                          except that I hadn't met my wife yet!  The
                          past is only what we remember but the future
                          is something we have control over.  Peace,
                          calm, happyness, they are all hard to come by
                          but they are possible.  I wish you success in
                          finding what makes your future better.</div>
                        <div class="gmail_default"><br/>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default">I'm sorry about the
                          bad things that have happened to you in
                          the past.  As far as I'm concerned, you are
                          welcomed here!  </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default"><br/>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default">All the best,</div>
                        <div class="gmail_default"><br/>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default">Ron Teitelbaum </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br/>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 1,
                          2020 at 10:38 PM Robert Withers via Squeak-dev
                          <<a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>
                          wrote:<br/>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                          <div>
                            <p>:sob::sob::sob:<br/>
                            </p>
                            <div>On 10/1/20 10:34 PM, Robert Withers
                              wrote:<br/>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <p>I wrote to the #general Squeak Slack
                                channel:</p>
                              <blockquote>
                                <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
                                    a complete larcenous bastard. 20
                                    years ago, this month, published it
                                    as his own work. And been against me
                                    ever since. My CPTSD (100% veteran
                                    service-connected) comes with an
                                    exquisitely sensitive deception
                                    meter. There are those who shunned
                                    me and ostracized me and made me
                                    feel MOST UNWELCOME. For  20 years.
                                    My delusions kick in and I start
                                    suspecting back channel
                                    communications against me. My love
                                    for Squeak conflicted with what I
                                    knew was happening. but I hung in
                                    there and worked on Cryptography,
                                    work with a group of great people
                                    and that I am satisfied with its
                                    added value to Squeak. For 20 years
                                    I KNEW people were against me in the
                                    community. I cannot describe how
                                    negatively this affected me. My
                                    third suicide attempt, in 2007 I
                                    jumped off the roof of a 6 story
                                    apartment building and broke my back
                                    along with many bones. God did not
                                    want me to die, yet, so I lived.
                                    This deception and ostracism is most
                                    well highlighted by the taking
                                    credit for my work, without
                                    attribution. He is a complete tool.
                                    SHAME!</span></p>
                                <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I
                                      do not know the degree to which he
                                      spoke against me. I<span> </span></span><b style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">imagine</b><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>it
                                      was ever since 2000. Delusions!
                                      What is real? I knew not. So much
                                      torment! AGONY! They do not
                                      welcome me! They are trying to
                                      chase me off! Good grief, Charlie
                                      Brown.</span></span></p>
                                <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Severely
                                    exacerbated my CPTSD! I kept trying
                                    to kill myself because of it! I
                                    thought I had done something
                                    egregiously wrong. Whatever it was
                                    it had to be my fault. I was not
                                    feeling the love, even from myself.</span></p>
                                <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
                                  </span></p>
                                <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:</span></p>
                                <p><br/>
                                  <span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">In
                                      2017, 900 units of insulin brought
                                      my blood glucose below 40. I
                                      almost succeeded that time.</span></span></p>
                                <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
                                    </span></span></p>
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                              <p>rww<br/>
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                              <div>On 10/1/20 8:55 PM, Robert Withers
                                wrote:<br/>
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                                <pre>The worst sort of person is one who takes the credit for the work of
another. Wouldn't you agree?

You may wish to hear John's judgement on the matter. He was right there
when it was first built.

If you are not humble you will be humiliated, and brought low.

rww

On 10/1/20 8:35 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
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                                    <pre>On 2020-10-01, at 4:57 PM, Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org></a> wrote:

I am curious. Who was the original author of the VMMaker Tool?
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                                  <pre>That would be me; back in exobox days. Written along with the original VMMaker and intended to be an example of clean, tidy, morphic usage. I've no idea if anyone ever uses it now, since running it via scripting has proven more valuable.


tim
--
tim Rowledge; <a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tim@rowledge.org</a>; <a href="http://www.rowledge.org/tim" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.rowledge.org/tim</a>
"Wibble" said Pooh the stress beginning to show.



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