<html><head></head><body>
<p><i><span id="en-KJV-19685" class="text Jer-30-17">For I will
restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds,
saith the <span style="font-variant: small-caps" class="small-caps">Lord</span>; because they called thee an
Outcast, saying, This is Zion, whom no man seeketh after.</span></i></p>
<p><i><span id="en-KJV-19685" class="text Jer-30-17"><b>Jeremiah
30:17</b><br/>
</span></i></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:22 AM, Robert Withers via
Squeak-dev wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:53e5af96-c60c-4361-e3df-0539863bee2e@pm.me">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/>
<p>Thank you for reaching out in this manner on these issues.
Though be ye not concerned for my health, Ron, I am in a good
place. The sobbing really helps a LOT! And I was brought to that
tonight after screaming! And discussing a couple of my many
suicide attempts. And realizing the effect my not finding a home
with Squeak had affected me over 20 years. It hurts! I sob. All
is well; God is Good. The Truth heals. All praise to the Most
High!</p>
<p>Kindly,<br/>
Rob<br/>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:16 AM, Ron Teitelbaum
wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAEzdQ-eVFuG-ruo7WYhTh3JfKNv9MvK5zFXUAtCewgX1xuh=RA@mail.gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8"/>
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Rob,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">You have
been in this place before. Is there someone you can talk to
for help? Do you have a connection to someone that is
working with you on your issues? Would you consider calling
them now?</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I've seen
you here before. I've seen you doing much better. You
should be good to yourself and get help now to move into
calmer water and get on a more even keel. A better future
includes protecting yourself, being nice to yourself, and
making sure you get help when you need it.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Don't wait
until later. I really recommend you do it now.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Ron</div>
</div>
<br/>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 1:50
AM Robert Withers <<a href="mailto:robert.withers@pm.me" moz-do-not-send="true">robert.withers@pm.me</a>> wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<h2><small>"And would not encourage the feeding of the
indigent!"</small></h2>
<div>On 10/2/20 12:21 AM, Robert Withers wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> The Hellfire and its occupants,
not my problem. I pay no attention. Burn.<br/>
<p>I "Will be in a life of bliss, In a Garden on high.
The Fruits whereof"...</p>
<hr width="100%" size="2"/>
<h1 align="center"><small>Al Haqqah (69)</small></h1>
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
<h2 align="center"><small>[The Sure Reality!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>What is the Sure Reality?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And what will make thee
realise what the Sure Reality is?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>The Thamud and the 'Ad
People (branded) as false the Stunning Calamity!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>But the Thamud,- they were
destroyed by a terrible Storm of thunder and
lightning!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the 'Ad, they were
destroyed by a furious Wind, exceedingly
violent;</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>He made it rage against
them seven nights and eight days in succession:
so that thou couldst see the (whole) people
lying prostrate in its (path), as they had been
roots of hollow palm-trees tumbled down!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then seest thou any of
them left surviving?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And Pharaoh, and those
before him, and the Cities Overthrown, committed
habitual Sin.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And disobeyed (each) the
messenger of their Lord; so He punished them
with an abundant Penalty.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>We, when the water (of
Noah's Flood) overflowed beyond its limits,
carried you (mankind), in the floating (Ark),</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>That We might make it a
Message unto you, and that ears (that should
hear the tale and) retain its memory should bear
its (lessons) in remembrance.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then, when one blast is
sounded on the Trumpet,</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the earth is moved,
and its mountains, and they are crushed to
powder at one stroke,-</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>On that Day shall the
(Great) Event come to pass.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the sky will be rent
asunder, for it will that Day be flimsy,</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the angels will be on
its sides, and eight will, that Day, bear the
Throne of thy Lord above them.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>That Day shall ye be
brought to Judgment: not an act of yours that ye
hide will be hidden.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then he that will be given
his Record in his right hand will say: "Ah here!
Read ye my Record!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>"I did really understand
that my Account would (One Day) reach me!"</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And he will be in a life
of Bliss,</small></h2>
<div name="verse:69:22" align="center">
<div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113644">
<h2><small>In a Garden on high,</small></h2>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div name="verse:69:23" align="center">
<div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113645">
<h2><small>The Fruits whereof (will hang in
bunches) low and near.</small></h2>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113646" align="center">
<h2><small>"Eat ye and drink ye, with full
satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye
sent before you, in the days that are gone!"</small></h2>
<h2><small>And he that will be given his Record in
his left hand, will say: "Ah! Would that my
Record had not been given to me!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And that I had never realised how my
account (stood)!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Ah! Would that (Death) had made an end
of me!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Of no profit to me has been my wealth!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"My power has perished from me!"...</small></h2>
<h2><small>(The stern command will say): "Seize ye
him, and bind ye him,</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Further, make him march in a chain,
whereof the length is seventy cubits!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"This was he that would not believe in
Allah Most High.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And would not encourage the feeding of
the indigent!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"So no friend hath he here this Day.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Nor hath he any food except the
corruption from the washing of wounds,</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Which none do eat but those in sin."</small></h2>
<h2><small>So I do call to witness what ye see,</small></h2>
<h2><small>And what ye see not,</small></h2>
<h2><small>That this is verily the word of an
honoured messenger;</small></h2>
<h2><small>It is not the word of a poet: little it
is ye believe!</small></h2>
<h2><small>Nor is it the word of a soothsayer:
little admonition it is ye receive.</small></h2>
<h2><small>(This is) a Message sent down from the
Lord of the Worlds.</small></h2>
<h2><small>And if the messenger were to invent any
sayings in Our name,</small></h2>
<h2><small>We should certainly seize him by his
right hand,</small></h2>
<h2><small>And We should certainly then cut off
the artery of his heart:</small></h2>
<h2><small>Nor could any of you withhold him (from
Our wrath).</small></h2>
<h2><small>But verily this is a Message for the
Allah-fearing.</small></h2>
<h2><small>And We certainly know that there are
amongst you those that reject (it).</small></h2>
<h2><small>But truly (Revelation) is a cause of
sorrow for the Unbelievers.</small></h2>
<h2><small>But verily it is Truth of assured
certainty.</small></h2>
<h2><small>So glorify the name of thy Lord Most
High.</small></h2>
<h2><small>] - Quran 69:1-52<br/>
</small></h2>
</div>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<p>---<br/>
</p>
<p>Slosher<br/>
Oriental, NC<br/>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<p> </p>
<p><img src="cid:part2.9944812F.CFC5EE7B@pm.me" alt="" class="" width="600" height="402"/></p>
<br/>
<div>On 10/1/20 11:36 PM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Rob,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm so sorry you felt
that way. I know you have had major issues,
you have said the same yourself. I'm always
happy to see you come back even after long
absences. You are a brilliant coder and it
has been my distinct pleasure to work with you
on Cryptography! Thank you for all you have
done and indeed you are responsible for adding
significant value to Squeak and the
community. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We all work on code
and it's easy to work your ass off on
something to make it work and forget where it
originated. We all contribute in large and
small ways to everything. If you started
VMMaker thank you! It is definitely something
a lot of us use. I remember learning all
about it a long long time ago before I
realized that while I could understand it and
I could use it, the people that work on the VM
are a level higher than me. I just make apps!</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I remember getting in
an argument with Andreas about adding methods
to collection. "WE DON"T NEED more methods in
Collection we need to remove most of them and
make it easier!" I argued with him about the
value over and over but he insisted that they
just didn't add enough value. I could have
been put off. I could have assumed that
Andreas didn't like me but I would have been
very wrong! I was really honored to get the
chance to work with him and we became great
friends. Of course I added my methods to the
code we were working on together and was so
thrilled when he used my methods for his own
code.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">I don't know what
happened with VMMaker but again thank you for
your participation in it.. I wanted to take a
minute to thank you for your work and to let
you know it is my honor to work with you too!
I hope that you can come to terms with your
past and that you get the help you need for
your CPTSD. </div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Everything is
possible, the past is gone, but the future is
still yours to shape. I wish the past was set
in stone but even that moves and slips. I was
talking to my wife about a party we attended:
"Remember in 2000 we were at the party and
counted down the new year and someone hit the
breaker and killed the lights! We were all
talking about what would happen in the year
2000, would everything break!" Great story
except that I hadn't met my wife yet! The
past is only what we remember but the future
is something we have control over. Peace,
calm, happyness, they are all hard to come by
but they are possible. I wish you success in
finding what makes your future better.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">I'm sorry about the
bad things that have happened to you in
the past. As far as I'm concerned, you are
welcomed here! </div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">All the best,</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Ron Teitelbaum </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
</div>
<br/>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 1,
2020 at 10:38 PM Robert Withers via Squeak-dev
<<a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>
wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>:sob::sob::sob:<br/>
</p>
<div>On 10/1/20 10:34 PM, Robert Withers
wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p>I wrote to the #general Squeak Slack
channel:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
a complete larcenous bastard. 20
years ago, this month, published it
as his own work. And been against me
ever since. My CPTSD (100% veteran
service-connected) comes with an
exquisitely sensitive deception
meter. There are those who shunned
me and ostracized me and made me
feel MOST UNWELCOME. For 20 years.
My delusions kick in and I start
suspecting back channel
communications against me. My love
for Squeak conflicted with what I
knew was happening. but I hung in
there and worked on Cryptography,
work with a group of great people
and that I am satisfied with its
added value to Squeak. For 20 years
I KNEW people were against me in the
community. I cannot describe how
negatively this affected me. My
third suicide attempt, in 2007 I
jumped off the roof of a 6 story
apartment building and broke my back
along with many bones. God did not
want me to die, yet, so I lived.
This deception and ostracism is most
well highlighted by the taking
credit for my work, without
attribution. He is a complete tool.
SHAME!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I
do not know the degree to which he
spoke against me. I<span> </span></span><b style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">imagine</b><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>it
was ever since 2000. Delusions!
What is real? I knew not. So much
torment! AGONY! They do not
welcome me! They are trying to
chase me off! Good grief, Charlie
Brown.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Severely
exacerbated my CPTSD! I kept trying
to kill myself because of it! I
thought I had done something
egregiously wrong. Whatever it was
it had to be my fault. I was not
feeling the love, even from myself.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:</span></p>
<p><br/>
<span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">In
2017, 900 units of insulin brought
my blood glucose below 40. I
almost succeeded that time.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
</span></span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>rww<br/>
</p>
<div>On 10/1/20 8:55 PM, Robert Withers
wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>The worst sort of person is one who takes the credit for the work of
another. Wouldn't you agree?
You may wish to hear John's judgement on the matter. He was right there
when it was first built.
If you are not humble you will be humiliated, and brought low.
rww
On 10/1/20 8:35 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>On 2020-10-01, at 4:57 PM, Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org></a> wrote:
I am curious. Who was the original author of the VMMaker Tool?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>That would be me; back in exobox days. Written along with the original VMMaker and intended to be an example of clean, tidy, morphic usage. I've no idea if anyone ever uses it now, since running it via scripting has proven more valuable.
tim
--
tim Rowledge; <a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tim@rowledge.org</a>; <a href="http://www.rowledge.org/tim" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.rowledge.org/tim</a>
"Wibble" said Pooh the stress beginning to show.
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<div>-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
</div>
</div>
<br/>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="moz-signature">-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="moz-signature">-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
</div>
</body></html>