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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://soundcloud.com/robert_withers/rasta">https://soundcloud.com/robert_withers/rasta</a></p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://soundcloud.com/robert_withers/mando">https://soundcloud.com/robert_withers/mando</a><br/>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:39 AM, Robert Withers
wrote:<br/>
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<p>Play a bit of these spicy beats! The music helps me to express
what is on the inside.<br/>
</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://youtu.be/3q8nGnls1Ow?t=2711" moz-do-not-send="true">https://youtu.be/3q8nGnls1Ow?t=2711</a><br/>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:26 AM, Robert Withers
wrote:<br/>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:68481afd-2d10-e85b-29be-f2ac9546388e@pm.me">
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<p><i><span id="en-KJV-19685" class="text Jer-30-17">For I will
restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy
wounds, saith the <span style="font-variant: small-caps" class="small-caps">Lord</span>; because they called thee
an Outcast, saying, This is Zion, whom no man seeketh
after.</span></i></p>
<p><i><span id="en-KJV-19685" class="text Jer-30-17"><b>Jeremiah
30:17</b><br/>
</span></i></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:22 AM, Robert Withers
via Squeak-dev wrote:<br/>
</div>
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<p>Thank you for reaching out in this manner on these issues.
Though be ye not concerned for my health, Ron, I am in a
good place. The sobbing really helps a LOT! And I was
brought to that tonight after screaming! And discussing a
couple of my many suicide attempts. And realizing the effect
my not finding a home with Squeak had affected me over 20
years. It hurts! I sob. All is well; God is Good. The Truth
heals. All praise to the Most High!</p>
<p>Kindly,<br/>
Rob<br/>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 2:16 AM, Ron
Teitelbaum wrote:<br/>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Rob,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">You
have been in this place before. Is there someone you
can talk to for help? Do you have a connection to
someone that is working with you on your issues? Would
you consider calling them now?</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I've
seen you here before. I've seen you doing much better.
You should be good to yourself and get help now to move
into calmer water and get on a more even keel. A better
future includes protecting yourself, being nice to
yourself, and making sure you get help when you need it.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Don't
wait until later. I really recommend you do it now.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Ron</div>
</div>
<br/>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at
1:50 AM Robert Withers <<a href="mailto:robert.withers@pm.me" moz-do-not-send="true">robert.withers@pm.me</a>>
wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<h2><small>"And would not encourage the feeding of the
indigent!"</small></h2>
<div>On 10/2/20 12:21 AM, Robert Withers wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> The Hellfire and its
occupants, not my problem. I pay no attention. Burn.<br/>
<p>I "Will be in a life of bliss, In a Garden on
high. The Fruits whereof"...</p>
<hr width="100%" size="2"/>
<h1 align="center"><small>Al Haqqah (69)</small></h1>
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
<h2 align="center"><small>[The Sure Reality!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>What is the Sure
Reality?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And what will make
thee realise what the Sure Reality is?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>The Thamud and the 'Ad
People (branded) as false the Stunning
Calamity!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>But the Thamud,- they
were destroyed by a terrible Storm of
thunder and lightning!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the 'Ad, they were
destroyed by a furious Wind, exceedingly
violent;</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>He made it rage
against them seven nights and eight days in
succession: so that thou couldst see the
(whole) people lying prostrate in its
(path), as they had been roots of hollow
palm-trees tumbled down!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then seest thou any of
them left surviving?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And Pharaoh, and those
before him, and the Cities Overthrown,
committed habitual Sin.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And disobeyed (each)
the messenger of their Lord; so He punished
them with an abundant Penalty.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>We, when the water (of
Noah's Flood) overflowed beyond its limits,
carried you (mankind), in the floating
(Ark),</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>That We might make it
a Message unto you, and that ears (that
should hear the tale and) retain its memory
should bear its (lessons) in remembrance.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then, when one blast
is sounded on the Trumpet,</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the earth is
moved, and its mountains, and they are
crushed to powder at one stroke,-</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>On that Day shall the
(Great) Event come to pass.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the sky will be
rent asunder, for it will that Day be
flimsy,</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the angels will be
on its sides, and eight will, that Day, bear
the Throne of thy Lord above them.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>That Day shall ye be
brought to Judgment: not an act of yours
that ye hide will be hidden.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then he that will be
given his Record in his right hand will say:
"Ah here! Read ye my Record!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>"I did really
understand that my Account would (One Day)
reach me!"</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And he will be in a
life of Bliss,</small></h2>
<div name="verse:69:22" align="center">
<div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113644">
<h2><small>In a Garden on high,</small></h2>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div name="verse:69:23" align="center">
<div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113645">
<h2><small>The Fruits whereof (will hang
in bunches) low and near.</small></h2>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113646" align="center">
<h2><small>"Eat ye and drink ye, with full
satisfaction; because of the (good) that
ye sent before you, in the days that are
gone!"</small></h2>
<h2><small>And he that will be given his
Record in his left hand, will say: "Ah!
Would that my Record had not been given to
me!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And that I had never realised how
my account (stood)!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Ah! Would that (Death) had made an
end of me!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Of no profit to me has been my
wealth!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"My power has perished from me!"...</small></h2>
<h2><small>(The stern command will say):
"Seize ye him, and bind ye him,</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And burn ye him in the Blazing
Fire.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Further, make him march in a
chain, whereof the length is seventy
cubits!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"This was he that would not believe
in Allah Most High.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And would not encourage the
feeding of the indigent!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"So no friend hath he here this
Day.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Nor hath he any food except the
corruption from the washing of wounds,</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Which none do eat but those in
sin."</small></h2>
<h2><small>So I do call to witness what ye
see,</small></h2>
<h2><small>And what ye see not,</small></h2>
<h2><small>That this is verily the word of an
honoured messenger;</small></h2>
<h2><small>It is not the word of a poet:
little it is ye believe!</small></h2>
<h2><small>Nor is it the word of a soothsayer:
little admonition it is ye receive.</small></h2>
<h2><small>(This is) a Message sent down from
the Lord of the Worlds.</small></h2>
<h2><small>And if the messenger were to invent
any sayings in Our name,</small></h2>
<h2><small>We should certainly seize him by
his right hand,</small></h2>
<h2><small>And We should certainly then cut
off the artery of his heart:</small></h2>
<h2><small>Nor could any of you withhold him
(from Our wrath).</small></h2>
<h2><small>But verily this is a Message for
the Allah-fearing.</small></h2>
<h2><small>And We certainly know that there
are amongst you those that reject (it).</small></h2>
<h2><small>But truly (Revelation) is a cause
of sorrow for the Unbelievers.</small></h2>
<h2><small>But verily it is Truth of assured
certainty.</small></h2>
<h2><small>So glorify the name of thy Lord
Most High.</small></h2>
<h2><small>] - Quran 69:1-52<br/>
</small></h2>
</div>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<p>---<br/>
</p>
<p>Slosher<br/>
Oriental, NC<br/>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite">
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<p> </p>
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<br/>
<div>On 10/1/20 11:36 PM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Rob,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm so sorry you
felt that way. I know you have had major
issues, you have said the same yourself.
I'm always happy to see you come back even
after long absences. You are a
brilliant coder and it has been my
distinct pleasure to work with you on
Cryptography! Thank you for all you have
done and indeed you are responsible for
adding significant value to Squeak and the
community. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We all work on
code and it's easy to work your ass off on
something to make it work and forget where
it originated. We all contribute in large
and small ways to everything. If you
started VMMaker thank you! It is
definitely something a lot of us use. I
remember learning all about it a long long
time ago before I realized that while I
could understand it and I could use it,
the people that work on the VM are a level
higher than me. I just make apps!</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I remember getting
in an argument with Andreas about adding
methods to collection. "WE DON"T NEED
more methods in Collection we need to
remove most of them and make it easier!" I
argued with him about the value over and
over but he insisted that they just didn't
add enough value. I could have been put
off. I could have assumed that Andreas
didn't like me but I would have been very
wrong! I was really honored to get the
chance to work with him and we became
great friends. Of course I added my
methods to the code we were working on
together and was so thrilled when he used
my methods for his own code.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">I don't know what
happened with VMMaker but again thank you
for your participation in it.. I wanted to
take a minute to thank you for your work
and to let you know it is my honor to work
with you too! I hope that you can come to
terms with your past and that you get the
help you need for your CPTSD. </div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Everything is
possible, the past is gone, but the future
is still yours to shape. I wish the past
was set in stone but even that moves and
slips. I was talking to my wife about a
party we attended: "Remember in 2000 we
were at the party and counted down the new
year and someone hit the breaker and
killed the lights! We were all talking
about what would happen in the year 2000,
would everything break!" Great story
except that I hadn't met my wife yet! The
past is only what we remember but the
future is something we have control over.
Peace, calm, happyness, they are all hard
to come by but they are possible. I wish
you success in finding what makes your
future better.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">I'm sorry
about the bad things that have happened to
you in the past. As far as I'm concerned,
you are welcomed here! </div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">All the best,</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Ron Teitelbaum </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
</div>
</div>
<br/>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu,
Oct 1, 2020 at 10:38 PM Robert Withers via
Squeak-dev <<a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>
wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>:sob::sob::sob:<br/>
</p>
<div>On 10/1/20 10:34 PM, Robert Withers
wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p>I wrote to the #general Squeak
Slack channel:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
a complete larcenous bastard. 20
years ago, this month, published
it as his own work. And been
against me ever since. My CPTSD
(100% veteran service-connected)
comes with an exquisitely
sensitive deception meter. There
are those who shunned me and
ostracized me and made me feel
MOST UNWELCOME. For 20 years.
My delusions kick in and I start
suspecting back channel
communications against me. My
love for Squeak conflicted with
what I knew was happening. but I
hung in there and worked on
Cryptography, work with a group
of great people and that I am
satisfied with its added value
to Squeak. For 20 years I KNEW
people were against me in the
community. I cannot describe how
negatively this affected me. My
third suicide attempt, in 2007 I
jumped off the roof of a 6 story
apartment building and broke my
back along with many bones. God
did not want me to die, yet, so
I lived. This deception and
ostracism is most well
highlighted by the taking credit
for my work, without
attribution. He is a complete
tool. SHAME!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I
do not know the degree to
which he spoke against me. I<span> </span></span><b style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">imagine</b><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>it
was ever since 2000.
Delusions! What is real? I
knew not. So much torment!
AGONY! They do not welcome me!
They are trying to chase me
off! Good grief, Charlie
Brown.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Severely
exacerbated my CPTSD! I kept
trying to kill myself because of
it! I thought I had done
something egregiously wrong.
Whatever it was it had to be my
fault. I was not feeling the
love, even from myself.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:</span></p>
<p><br/>
<span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">In
2017, 900 units of insulin
brought my blood glucose below
40. I almost succeeded that
time.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
</span></span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>rww<br/>
</p>
<div>On 10/1/20 8:55 PM, Robert
Withers wrote:<br/>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>The worst sort of person is one who takes the credit for the work of
another. Wouldn't you agree?
You may wish to hear John's judgement on the matter. He was right there
when it was first built.
If you are not humble you will be humiliated, and brought low.
rww
On 10/1/20 8:35 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>On 2020-10-01, at 4:57 PM, Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org></a> wrote:
I am curious. Who was the original author of the VMMaker Tool?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>That would be me; back in exobox days. Written along with the original VMMaker and intended to be an example of clean, tidy, morphic usage. I've no idea if anyone ever uses it now, since running it via scripting has proven more valuable.
tim
--
tim Rowledge; <a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tim@rowledge.org</a>; <a href="http://www.rowledge.org/tim" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.rowledge.org/tim</a>
"Wibble" said Pooh the stress beginning to show.
</pre>
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<div>-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
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K, r<br/>
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<div>-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
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<div>-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
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<div>-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
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<div>-- <br/>
K, r<br/>
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