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    <p><i>"</i><i>The fear of the </i><i><span style="font-variant:
          small-caps" class="small-caps">Lord</span></i><i> is the
        beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and
        instruction."</i></p>
    <p><b>Proverbs 1:7</b><i><br/>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 12:46 AM, Robert Withers
      wrote:<br/>
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      <p>Note. The onset of itching is a sure indicator.<br/>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 12:44 AM, Robert Withers
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/20 12:20 AM, Eliot Miranda
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            <blockquote type="cite">On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Ron
              Teitelbaum <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Ron@usmedrec.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><Ron@usmedrec.com></a>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi
                  Rob,</div>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm
                  so sorry you felt that way.  I know you have had major
                  issues, you have said the same yourself.  I'm always
                  happy to see you come back even after long absences. 
                  You are a brilliant coder and it has been my distinct
                  pleasure to work with you on Cryptography!  Thank you
                  for all you have done and indeed you are responsible
                  for adding significant value to Squeak and the
                  community.  </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We
                  all work on code and it's easy to work your ass off on
                  something to make it work and forget where it
                  originated.  We all contribute in large and small ways
                  to everything.  If you started VMMaker thank you!  It
                  is definitely something a lot of us use.  I remember
                  learning all about it a long long time ago before I
                  realized that while I could understand it and I could
                  use it, the people that work on the VM are a level
                  higher than me.  I just make apps!</div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br/>
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
                  remember getting in an argument with Andreas about
                  adding methods to collection.  "WE DON"T NEED more
                  methods in Collection we need to remove most of them
                  and make it easier!" I argued with him about the value
                  over and over but he insisted that they just didn't
                  add enough value.  I could have been put off.  I could
                  have assumed that Andreas didn't like me but I would
                  have been very wrong!  I was really honored to get the
                  chance to work with him and we became great friends. 
                  Of course I added my methods to the code we were
                  working on together and was so thrilled when he used
                  my methods for his own code.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="">I don't know what
                  happened with VMMaker but again thank you for
                  your participation in it.. I wanted to take a minute
                  to thank you for your work and to let you know it is
                  my honor to work with you too!  I hope that you can
                  come to terms with your past and that you get the help
                  you need for your CPTSD.  </div>
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                </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="">Everything is
                  possible, the past is gone, but the future is still
                  yours to shape.  I wish the past was set in stone but
                  even that moves and slips.  I was talking to my wife
                  about a party we attended: "Remember in 2000 we were
                  at the party and counted down the new year and someone
                  hit the breaker and killed the lights!  We were all
                  talking about what would happen in the year 2000,
                  would everything break!"  Great story except that I
                  hadn't met my wife yet!  The past is only what we
                  remember but the future is something we have control
                  over.  Peace, calm, happyness, they are all hard to
                  come by but they are possible.  I wish you success in
                  finding what makes your future better.</div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style=""><br/>
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="">I'm sorry about the
                  bad things that have happened to you in the past.  As
                  far as I'm concerned, you are welcomed here!  </div>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="">All the best,</div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style=""><br/>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="">Ron Teitelbaum </div>
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          Beautifully said, Ron.  And Rob, I hope you find peace with
          this.  It’s difficult; I know.  Hugs.</blockquote>
        Thanks, Eliot! I had to rip my heart completely apart, laid
        bare. So the scabs would heal right. I kept picking and picking
        and picking. They itched like HELL!<br/>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 1, 2020
                    at 10:38 PM Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <<a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" moz-do-not-send="true">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>
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                      <p>:sob::sob::sob:<br/>
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                      <div>On 10/1/20 10:34 PM, Robert Withers wrote:<br/>
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                        <p>I wrote to the #general Squeak Slack channel:</p>
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                          <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
                              a complete larcenous bastard. 20 years
                              ago, this month, published it as his own
                              work. And been against me ever since. My
                              CPTSD (100% veteran service-connected)
                              comes with an exquisitely sensitive
                              deception meter. There are those who
                              shunned me and ostracized me and made me
                              feel MOST UNWELCOME. For  20 years. My
                              delusions kick in and I start suspecting
                              back channel communications against me. My
                              love for Squeak conflicted with what I
                              knew was happening. but I hung in there
                              and worked on Cryptography, work with a
                              group of great people and that I am
                              satisfied with its added value to Squeak.
                              For 20 years I KNEW people were against me
                              in the community. I cannot describe how
                              negatively this affected me. My third
                              suicide attempt, in 2007 I jumped off the
                              roof of a 6 story apartment building and
                              broke my back along with many bones. God
                              did not want me to die, yet, so I lived.
                              This deception and ostracism is most well
                              highlighted by the taking credit for my
                              work, without attribution. He is a
                              complete tool. SHAME!</span></p>
                          <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I
                                do not know the degree to which he spoke
                                against me. I<span> </span></span><b style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">imagine</b><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>it
                                was ever since 2000. Delusions! What is
                                real? I knew not. So much torment!
                                AGONY! They do not welcome me! They are
                                trying to chase me off! Good grief,
                                Charlie Brown.</span></span></p>
                          <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Severely
                              exacerbated my CPTSD! I kept trying to
                              kill myself because of it! I thought I had
                              done something egregiously wrong. Whatever
                              it was it had to be my fault. I was not
                              feeling the love, even from myself.</span></p>
                          <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
                            </span></p>
                          <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:</span></p>
                          <p><br/>
                            <span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">In
                                2017, 900 units of insulin brought my
                                blood glucose below 40. I almost
                                succeeded that time.</span></span></p>
                          <p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br/>
                              </span></span></p>
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                        <p>rww<br/>
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                        <div>On 10/1/20 8:55 PM, Robert Withers wrote:<br/>
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                          <pre>The worst sort of person is one who takes the credit for the work of
another. Wouldn't you agree?

You may wish to hear John's judgement on the matter. He was right there
when it was first built.

If you are not humble you will be humiliated, and brought low.

rww

On 10/1/20 8:35 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
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                              <pre>On 2020-10-01, at 4:57 PM, Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org></a> wrote:

I am curious. Who was the original author of the VMMaker Tool?
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                            <pre>That would be me; back in exobox days. Written along with the original VMMaker and intended to be an example of clean, tidy, morphic usage. I've no idea if anyone ever uses it now, since running it via scripting has proven more valuable.


tim
--
tim Rowledge; <a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tim@rowledge.org</a>; <a href="http://www.rowledge.org/tim" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.rowledge.org/tim</a>
"Wibble" said Pooh the stress beginning to show.



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                          K, r<br/>
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                        K, r<br/>
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