<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Rob,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">You have been in this place before. Is there someone you can talk to for help? Do you have a connection to someone that is working with you on your issues? Would you consider calling them now?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I've seen you here before. I've seen you doing much better. You should be good to yourself and get help now to move into calmer water and get on a more even keel. A better future includes protecting yourself, being nice to yourself, and making sure you get help when you need it.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Don't wait until later. I really recommend you do it now.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Ron</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 1:50 AM Robert Withers <<a href="mailto:robert.withers@pm.me">robert.withers@pm.me</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<h2><small>"And would not encourage the feeding of the
indigent!"</small></h2>
<div>On 10/2/20 12:21 AM, Robert Withers
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
The Hellfire and its occupants, not my problem. I pay no
attention. Burn.<br>
<p>I "Will be in a life of bliss, In a Garden on high. The Fruits
whereof"...</p>
<hr width="100%" size="2">
<h1 align="center"><small>Al Haqqah (69)</small></h1>
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
<h2 align="center"><small>[The Sure Reality!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>What is the Sure
Reality?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And what will make
thee realise what the Sure Reality is?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>The Thamud and the 'Ad
People (branded) as false the Stunning Calamity!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>But the Thamud,- they
were destroyed by a terrible Storm of thunder and
lightning!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the 'Ad, they were
destroyed by a furious Wind, exceedingly violent;</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>He made it rage
against them seven nights and eight days in succession: so
that thou couldst see the (whole) people lying prostrate
in its (path), as they had been roots of hollow palm-trees
tumbled down!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then seest thou any of
them left surviving?</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And Pharaoh, and those
before him, and the Cities Overthrown, committed habitual
Sin.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And disobeyed (each)
the messenger of their Lord; so He punished them with an
abundant Penalty.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>We, when the water (of
Noah's Flood) overflowed beyond its limits, carried you
(mankind), in the floating (Ark),</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>That We might make it
a Message unto you, and that ears (that should hear the
tale and) retain its memory should bear its (lessons) in
remembrance.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then, when one blast
is sounded on the Trumpet,</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the earth is
moved, and its mountains, and they are crushed to powder
at one stroke,-</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>On that Day shall the
(Great) Event come to pass.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the sky will be
rent asunder, for it will that Day be flimsy,</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And the angels will be
on its sides, and eight will, that Day, bear the Throne of
thy Lord above them.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>That Day shall ye be
brought to Judgment: not an act of yours that ye hide will
be hidden.</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>Then he that will be
given his Record in his right hand will say: "Ah here!
Read ye my Record!</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>"I did really
understand that my Account would (One Day) reach me!"</small></h2>
<h2 align="center"><small>And he will be in a
life of Bliss,</small></h2>
<div name="verse:69:22" align="center">
<div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113644">
<h2><small>In a Garden on high,</small></h2>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div name="verse:69:23" align="center">
<div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113645">
<h2><small>The Fruits whereof (will hang in
bunches) low and near.</small></h2>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div id="gmail-m_2205346858104581037trans113646" align="center">
<h2><small>"Eat ye and drink ye, with full
satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before
you, in the days that are gone!"</small></h2>
<h2><small>And he that will be given his Record in
his left hand, will say: "Ah! Would that my Record had
not been given to me!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And that I had never realised how my
account (stood)!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Ah! Would that (Death) had made an end
of me!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Of no profit to me has been my wealth!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"My power has perished from me!"...</small></h2>
<h2><small>(The stern command will say): "Seize ye
him, and bind ye him,</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Further, make him march in a chain,
whereof the length is seventy cubits!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"This was he that would not believe in
Allah Most High.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"And would not encourage the feeding of
the indigent!</small></h2>
<h2><small>"So no friend hath he here this Day.</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Nor hath he any food except the
corruption from the washing of wounds,</small></h2>
<h2><small>"Which none do eat but those in sin."</small></h2>
<h2><small>So I do call to witness what ye see,</small></h2>
<h2><small>And what ye see not,</small></h2>
<h2><small>That this is verily the word of an
honoured messenger;</small></h2>
<h2><small>It is not the word of a poet: little it
is ye believe!</small></h2>
<h2><small>Nor is it the word of a soothsayer:
little admonition it is ye receive.</small></h2>
<h2><small>(This is) a Message sent down from the
Lord of the Worlds.</small></h2>
<h2><small>And if the messenger were to invent any
sayings in Our name,</small></h2>
<h2><small>We should certainly seize him by his
right hand,</small></h2>
<h2><small>And We should certainly then cut off the
artery of his heart:</small></h2>
<h2><small>Nor could any of you withhold him (from
Our wrath).</small></h2>
<h2><small>But verily this is a Message for the
Allah-fearing.</small></h2>
<h2><small>And We certainly know that there are
amongst you those that reject (it).</small></h2>
<h2><small>But truly (Revelation) is a cause of
sorrow for the Unbelievers.</small></h2>
<h2><small>But verily it is Truth of assured
certainty.</small></h2>
<h2><small>So glorify the name of thy Lord Most
High.</small></h2>
<h2><small>] - Quran 69:1-52<br>
</small></h2>
</div>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<p>---<br>
</p>
<p>Slosher<br>
Oriental, NC<br>
</p>
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<br>
<div>On 10/1/20 11:36 PM, Ron
Teitelbaum wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Rob,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm so
sorry you felt that way. I know you have had major
issues, you have said the same yourself. I'm always
happy to see you come back even after long absences.
You are a brilliant coder and it has been my distinct
pleasure to work with you on Cryptography! Thank you
for all you have done and indeed you are responsible for
adding significant value to Squeak and the community. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We all
work on code and it's easy to work your ass off on
something to make it work and forget where it
originated. We all contribute in large and small ways
to everything. If you started VMMaker thank you! It is
definitely something a lot of us use. I remember
learning all about it a long long time ago before I
realized that while I could understand it and I could
use it, the people that work on the VM are a level
higher than me. I just make apps!</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
remember getting in an argument with Andreas about
adding methods to collection. "WE DON"T NEED more
methods in Collection we need to remove most of them and
make it easier!" I argued with him about the value over
and over but he insisted that they just didn't add
enough value. I could have been put off. I could have
assumed that Andreas didn't like me but I would have
been very wrong! I was really honored to get the chance
to work with him and we became great friends. Of course
I added my methods to the code we were working on
together and was so thrilled when he used my methods for
his own code.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">I don't know what
happened with VMMaker but again thank you for
your participation in it.. I wanted to take a minute to
thank you for your work and to let you know it is my
honor to work with you too! I hope that you can come to
terms with your past and that you get the help you need
for your CPTSD. </div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Everything is
possible, the past is gone, but the future is still
yours to shape. I wish the past was set in stone but
even that moves and slips. I was talking to my wife
about a party we attended: "Remember in 2000 we were at
the party and counted down the new year and someone hit
the breaker and killed the lights! We were all talking
about what would happen in the year 2000, would
everything break!" Great story except that I hadn't met
my wife yet! The past is only what we remember but the
future is something we have control over. Peace, calm,
happyness, they are all hard to come by but they are
possible. I wish you success in finding what makes your
future better.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">I'm sorry about the
bad things that have happened to you in the past. As
far as I'm concerned, you are welcomed here! </div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">All the best,</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Ron Teitelbaum </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at
10:38 PM Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <<a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>:sob::sob::sob:<br>
</p>
<div>On 10/1/20 10:34 PM, Robert Withers wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p>I wrote to the #general Squeak Slack channel:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
a complete larcenous bastard. 20 years ago,
this month, published it as his own work. And
been against me ever since. My CPTSD (100%
veteran service-connected) comes with an
exquisitely sensitive deception meter. There
are those who shunned me and ostracized me and
made me feel MOST UNWELCOME. For 20 years. My
delusions kick in and I start suspecting back
channel communications against me. My love for
Squeak conflicted with what I knew was
happening. but I hung in there and worked on
Cryptography, work with a group of great
people and that I am satisfied with its added
value to Squeak. For 20 years I KNEW people
were against me in the community. I cannot
describe how negatively this affected me. My
third suicide attempt, in 2007 I jumped off
the roof of a 6 story apartment building and
broke my back along with many bones. God did
not want me to die, yet, so I lived. This
deception and ostracism is most well
highlighted by the taking credit for my work,
without attribution. He is a complete tool.
SHAME!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I
do not know the degree to which he spoke
against me. I<span> </span></span><b style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">imagine</b><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>it
was ever since 2000. Delusions! What is
real? I knew not. So much torment! AGONY!
They do not welcome me! They are trying to
chase me off! Good grief, Charlie Brown.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Severely
exacerbated my CPTSD! I kept trying to kill
myself because of it! I thought I had done
something egregiously wrong. Whatever it was
it had to be my fault. I was not feeling the
love, even from myself.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:</span></p>
<p><br>
<span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">In
2017, 900 units of insulin brought my blood
glucose below 40. I almost succeeded that
time.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-family:Slack-Lato,appleLogo,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:scream:<br>
</span></span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>rww<br>
</p>
<div>On 10/1/20 8:55 PM, Robert Withers wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>The worst sort of person is one who takes the credit for the work of
another. Wouldn't you agree?
You may wish to hear John's judgement on the matter. He was right there
when it was first built.
If you are not humble you will be humiliated, and brought low.
rww
On 10/1/20 8:35 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>On 2020-10-01, at 4:57 PM, Robert Withers via Squeak-dev <a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank"><squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org></a> wrote:
I am curious. Who was the original author of the VMMaker Tool?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>That would be me; back in exobox days. Written along with the original VMMaker and intended to be an example of clean, tidy, morphic usage. I've no idea if anyone ever uses it now, since running it via scripting has proven more valuable.
tim
--
tim Rowledge; <a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org" target="_blank">tim@rowledge.org</a>; <a href="http://www.rowledge.org/tim" target="_blank">http://www.rowledge.org/tim</a>
"Wibble" said Pooh the stress beginning to show.
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K, r<br>
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K, r<br>
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<div>-- <br>
K, r<br>
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K, r<br>
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K, r<br>
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K, r<br>
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