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<p>> <span style="font-size: 12pt;">Then IMO we should follow suit. For once I agree with them ;-)</span></p>
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<div>Nooo ... :( I don't know their reasons, but inverting a long-existing convention from one day to another seems like a true nightmare to me. This would invalidate the semantics of every existing test case that was ever written for Squeak/Smalltalk.</div>
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<div>Plus, IMHO it is often useful to order parameters by their complexity ascending (e.g., put blocks last) to provide a good writeability/readability of a message's senders. While the expected argument often is a constant, the actual argument mainly is the
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<div>How would the opposite read like?</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>Von:</b> Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda@gmail.com><br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 13. Oktober 2020 04:02:48<br>
<b>An:</b> The general-purpose Squeak developers list<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [squeak-dev] assert:equals: in Object</font>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 12:27 PM Jakob Reschke <<a href="mailto:forums.jakob@resfarm.de">forums.jakob@resfarm.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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Eliot Miranda-2 wrote<br>
> - appealing to the SUnit community to reverse the order of arguments to<br>
> assert:equals:, plus a rewrite rule that reversed the obvious cases where<br>
> the first argument is a literal constant.<br>
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For what it is worth, Pharo has just swapped the parameters... which makes<br>
all "portable" test cases awkward.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Then IMO we should follow suit. For once I agree with them ;-)</div>
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<div>best, Eliot</div>
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