<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 1, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Vanessa Freudenberg <vanessa@codefrau.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Oh cool! Yes I just saw Stephane’s message. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Did anyone try on 64 bits?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Indeed we did. We got things working in both 32 & 64 bits.<div><br></div><div>AFAIA the major thing not working right now is the MIDI plugin on MacOS because the current version uses the Carbon API no longer supported in 64 bits. I’d love to see someone shoe the MIDI plug-ins some love.<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Vanessa</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 12:46 Eliot Miranda <<a href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Vanessa,</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 2:10 PM Vanessa Freudenberg <<a href="mailto:vanessa@codefrau.net" target="_blank">vanessa@codefrau.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.squeaksource.com/Balloon3D.html" target="_blank">https://www.squeaksource.com/Balloon3D.html</a><br><div><br></div><div>... but nobody has looked at it in a long time, and the "Squeak3D" plugin is not part of the current VM builds I think. It certainly has not been ported to 64 bits. That plugin contains the non-h/w accelerated primitives. I don't think it works without those primitives (even though with today's JIT VM it might even be usable).</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I believe that Squeak3D is included in all Sur/trunk VM builds. As Stephane said, he's written a game using it. Soe time last year a few of us collaborated im getting rid of the bugs, due mainly to Stephane having written the game which then forced us to debug the plugin code.</div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Vanessa</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 1:49 PM David Duke <<a href="mailto:duke.j.david@gmail.com" target="_blank">duke.j.david@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Following links from the Baloon3d page on <a href="http://squeak.org" target="_blank">squeak.org</a>:<div><a href="http://map.squeak.org/package/178bd01c-f698-41ab-9c73-d9278c65c241/default" target="_blank">http://map.squeak.org/package/178bd01c-f698-41ab-9c73-d9278c65c241/default</a><br clear="all"><div>there are/were versions for <span style="font-size:medium;color:rgb(0,0,0)">(</span><a href="http://map.squeak.org/package/178bd01c-f698-41ab-9c73-d9278c65c241/autoversion/1" target="_blank">1-1.0.3</a><span style="font-size:medium;color:rgb(0,0,0)">, </span><a href="http://map.squeak.org/package/178bd01c-f698-41ab-9c73-d9278c65c241/autoversion/2" target="_blank">2-1.0.4</a><span style="font-size:medium;color:rgb(0,0,0)">) <br></span>--however both links end on pages with broken links to sars</div><div><br></div><div>Baloon3d home also has a dead link to a 'Balloon3D' removal package.</div><div><br></div><div>Qs: is there a copy of the original Baloon3D packages out there somewhere that</div><div>might be used to build a new package, or is it necessary/desirable to start again?</div><div>- any papers or design info that capture key decisions?</div><div><br></div><div>I'm aware that 3D on Squeak was in a way supeceded by Croquet/Cobalt</div><div>However that has a rather different use-case.</div><div>- I'm not too bothered by h/w acceleration.</div><div>- an elegant/customisable renderer is of more interest so happy to have more of </div><div>it in Smalltalk provided speed is tolerable</div><div><br></div><div>thanks,</div><div>David Duke</div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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