<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Tim,</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 12:30 PM tim Rowledge <<a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org">tim@rowledge.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><br><br><blockquote type="cite">On 2021-08-27, at 10:59 AM, Eliot Miranda <<a href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com" target="_blank">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>I think the issue here is a lack of documentation, not a lack of tools. </blockquote><div><br></div>That may well be true. After all, decent documentation is a tool that helps our brains use a facility...<div><br></div><div>Although my top-level point was the general whine about hard to discover links across abstractions, Pragma is certainly an important case and I'd be very happy to talk over making doc for them. As an example of where I find them a tad puzzling, the class comment mentions "Because pragmas are messages one can browse senders and implementors and perform them." OK, yes, if you select the text of a pragma you can do the cmd-m/n just like any other text, BUT surely they should appear in the UI lists of choices when in a browser. </div><div>eg - </div><div><img id="gmail-m_7912222205309651827F36E4761-561D-45BB-8D06-B7B6FA598B3F" src="cid:17b894049e72f7620bf1"></div><div><br>really ought to include the #preferenc.... selector in choices?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Can you please give extremely specific answers as to what lisy browser you're using (including the expression that delivered it), what preferences you have, etc? Because when I look at this in both Message Names and a Senders and Implementors list browser (derived from the Message Names) I see the Please Choose dialog offering me listClassesHierarchically, ==, ifNil: and preference:category:description:type:. My preferences here (searching for 'browse' in preferences) are </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Browse branched package versions separately nil<br>Browse with drag ''n'' drop nil<br>Browse with pretty-print nil<br>Browser shows package pane nil<br>Check for new versions before save nil<br>List classes hierarchically nil<br>Multi-window browsers nil<br>Show class icons nil<br>Show message icons nil<br>Smart search nil<br>Use unified message labels nil<br>abbreviatedBrowserButtons false<br>alternativeBrowseIt true<br>annotationPanes true<br>balloonHelpInMessageLists false<br>checkForSlips true<br>decorateBrowserButtons true<br>diffsInChangeList true<br>optionalButtons true<br>smartUpdating true<br>syntaxHighlightingAsYouType nil<br>syntaxHighlightingAsYouTypeAnsiAssignment nil<br>syntaxHighlightingAsYouTypeLeftArrowAssignment nil<br>traceMessages true<br>useServicesInBrowserButtonBar false<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><div><br>tim<br>--<br>tim Rowledge; <a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org" target="_blank">tim@rowledge.org</a>; <a href="http://www.rowledge.org/tim" target="_blank">http://www.rowledge.org/tim</a><br>Useful random insult:- His page was intentionally left blank.<br><br></div><br></div></div><br>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:small;border-collapse:separate"><div>_,,,^..^,,,_<br></div><div>best, Eliot</div></span></div></div></div></div>