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<p>Hi Jaromir,</p>
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<p>> <span style="font-size:12pt">Would you be interested in a quick review of these?</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt">> </span><span style="font-size:12pt">If you're interested I could also add a few more Exceptions examples.</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></p>
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<div>Sure, both would be very helpful of course! Please just make sure to contribute small independent versions so that we can easily review and merge them. :-)</div>
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<div>> <span>I'm not sure why the Terse guide doesn't behave like a Workspace: I mean automatic declarations. It's not straightforward to print-it or inspect the examples line by line; for a beginner running them feels scary - if you select just the line you're
interested in, it shouts unknown variable and if you accept, the modified Terse guide is half purple (in the Dark mode).</span></div>
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<div><span>Yeah, we were also having a similar discussion about automatic declarations in inspectors and other tools. I'm not sure what behavior I would expect here. On the one hand, this is just convenient, but on the other hand, would it confuse anyone? Especially
in inspectors/explorers, there might be clashes with existing instance variables. Maybe users would struggle to distinguish between their own "workspace" state and the actual state that is part of a receiver. We also would need to give users access to the
bindings (inspect/reset) as it is possible at the moment via the workspace menu. Another issue is that automatic declarations are just not "true plain Smalltalk", so when you want to convert it into a method, you will need to define the variables yourself
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<div><span>Best,</span></div>
<div><span>Christoph</span></div>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 6. Februar 2022 16:16:42<br>
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<b>Betreff:</b> [squeak-dev] Terse Guide's a bit outdated and contains errors</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Hi Marcel, all,<br>
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I've noticed the Terse Guide is a bit outdated and contains some errors and inconsistencies. Would you be interested in a quick review of these?<br>
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To name a few:<br>
1. Under General - Allowable characters name symbols like "blank" and "ff" which I guess are not being used any longer. It's also not clear what these symbols are supposed to be allowable for - variable declarations??<br>
2. Under Constants - x := 2e-2 is it a fractional constant? Or a float constant? It's confusing what (1/50) is then :)<br>
3. Under Method Call - missing declaration of anArray<br>
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I'm not sure why the Terse guide doesn't behave like a Workspace: I mean automatic declarations. It's not straightforward to print-it or inspect the examples line by line; for a beginner running them feels scary - if you select just the line you're interested
in, it shouts unknown variable and if you accept, the modified Terse guide is half purple (in the Dark mode).<br>
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If you're interested I could also add a few more Exceptions examples.<br>
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best, <br>
Jaromir<br>
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