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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Christoph, all,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">my proposal would be that we set all Preferences' defaultValues to their value during the release building<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Yes, that feels intuitive and I like the defaults the image comes with; I personally only need to make like 4 changes in the wizard and would appreciate to be able to get back to that default set.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Thanks,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:#333333;font-weight:normal">Jaromír Matas</span></strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:#555555"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de">Thiede, Christoph</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, May 20, 2022 15:16<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org">Squeak Dev</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [squeak-dev] Default preferences</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Hi Jaromir, hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">thanks for finding this! This is insane. I suppose that no one in the last years has ever pressed this "default" button and thus this inconsistency was never found.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">We seem to have two sources of truth here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">1. The default value of each preference:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> 1a. For pragma preferences, this is encoded in the getter of the preference (i.e., Model class>>#useColorfulWindows falls back to true).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> 1b. For old-style preferences, this is the defaultValue variable of the preference instance (this is not encoded anywhere, just historic instances that have been handed down since years or decades via the release
images like the Olympic torch). See Preferences preferenceAt: #fastDragWindowForMorphic for example.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">2. The default values encoded in the ReleaseBuilder (or actually, the ReleaseBuilders, since this thing is even subclassed), see #setPreferences. For instance, here #useColorfulWindows is set to false.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">This is really crazy. I feel like traveling ten years back in time after clicking that button. I don't know how we should solve the two sources of truth problem, but my proposal would be that we set all Preferences'
defaultValues to their value during the release building - how do you think about that? Would some others agree with that? If yes, I can implement & upload that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">> A theme is not a 'preference', despite the Preference Wizard sets it, right? (slightly confusing but ok)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Yes. The Preference Wizard does not display all preferences, but it also provides access to some other options. For instance, the preference browser also does not have logic for installing recommended packages.
:-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Christoph<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Von:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von Jaromir Matas <mail@jaromir.net><br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 20. Mai 2022 10:03:23<br>
<b>An:</b> Squeak Dev<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [squeak-dev] Default preferences</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A quick question: What are the 'default preferences'? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I thought they were the ones the fresh image comes with but when you open a Preference Browser and hit the 'default' button you get another set of preferences (round buttons, colorful windows etc.) – is this a bug? Is there a way to get
back to the preferences the image comes with?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A theme is not a 'preference', despite the Preference Wizard sets it, right? (slightly confusing but ok) (BTW the Community Dark theme is awesome! Even italic comments :) Using it all the time)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, if I check the 'English' tick-box in Extras -> Language, the flaps show (that must be a bug).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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