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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wonder if (or how) this is supposed to work: </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d like to open the latest image using an old VM; I used to do that by copying the old VM’s files into the new image’s directory but it doesn’t work any longer (I’m on Win10); I don’t know how these things are supposed to work; please,
could someone point me in the right direction or maybe just confirm it’s not working yet :)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jaromir</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:marcel.taeumel@hpi.de">Marcel Taeumel</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, May 30, 2022 13:48<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org">squeak-dev</a>;
<a href="mailto:vm-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org">vm-dev</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [squeak-dev] Older VM's won't start the latest beta images</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Hi Dave --<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Here is a possible in-image fix for this problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Marcel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:7.5pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#AAAAAA">Am 30.05.2022 11:57:22 schrieb Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel@hpi.de>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Hi Dave --<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">See <a href="https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/issues/638">https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/issues/638</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Should we fix this in the image or in the VM?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:7.5pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#AAAAAA">Am 30.05.2022 11:48:03 schrieb Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel@hpi.de>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Hi Dave --<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I wonder why I cannot change the format from 68021 to 68533 via<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">CompiledCode multipleBytecodeSetsActive: true.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Any ideas? At least the System Reporter does not report that format. Is this a VM bug?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:7.5pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#AAAAAA">Am 29.05.2022 16:04:04 schrieb David T. Lewis <lewis@mail.msen.com>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 08:06:59AM +0000, Jaromir Matas wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
> I wonder what?s changed that the images starting from Squeak6.0beta-21772-64bit on won?t start with the previous release VM (squeak.cog.spur_win64x64_202003021730) or even with pre-release new VMs (e.g. version 3154).<br>
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> I?m on Win10, the process explorer (windows) shortly runs WerFault.exe and than the Squeak process is closed/disappears.<br>
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The change is here:<br>
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http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2022-May/220660.html<br>
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The current release candidate image does not have this, but it will be<br>
applied as soon as you update that image, and it expected to be part of<br>
the final release. The update applies a new image format number to the<br>
saved image files (stored in the first 4 bytes of the image file) when<br>
multiple bytecode set support is required from the VM. Effectively, the<br>
means that the image is using the Sista bytecode set. Older VMs can<br>
run the Sista bytecodes but do not yet have the code for recognizing<br>
the additional image format number.<br>
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Dave<br>
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