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<p>Hi Marcel, hi all,</p>
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<p>thank you for the call! This seems to be an important issue and it would really be a pity if such a great project
<span>failed because of something as mundane as money.</span></p>
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<p>> <span style="font-size: 12pt;">What is needed?</span></p>
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<div>Could you maybe elaborate further on *how much* will actually be needed in total?</div>
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<div>I do not intend to mistrust anyone, but I think that some people might be more motivated to donate if there was more transparency regarding the
<b>actual</b> or <b>planned spendings</b> as well as the <b>received donations.</b> No fancy dashboard required, but a few rough numbers once per year would be great.</div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">A</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">pparently, you can get a simple </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hetzner server
</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">for</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> up </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">to $</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">60</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">0/year -</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">so
f</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">or what do we need multiple thousands of dollars each year?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Will the amount of donations have a direct impact on the time my image needs to update etc.? </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">And c</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">ould there be
</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">some</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> room for significant financial optimizations, for instance in the Monticello infrastructure? :-)</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Fortunately, our low-cost target, Hetzner, looks very promising to be donation-backed for the time to come.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">
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<div>For clarification: Does Hetzner provide a similar no-cost support option to Rackspace or are you talking about an extrapolation of the donations that squeak.org has received in the past? :-)</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div>Christoph</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>Von:</b> Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2022 11:07:11<br>
<b>An:</b> squeak-dev<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [squeak-dev] Call for Donation | Squeak Needs Your Support</font>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Dear Squeakers, Smalltalkers, and friends of object-oriented, interactive programming systems!</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Please consider making a donation to Squeak, and encourage your company or educational institution to think of supporting our project.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a href="https://squeak.org/"><span style="font-size: 10pt">https://squeak.org/</span></a><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (PayPal via "Donate" button)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a href="https://sfconservancy.org/donate/"><span style="font-size: 10pt">https://sfconservancy.org/donate/</span></a><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (Instructions for wire transfer)</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">The Squeak project is an open-source project with a long, pioneering, and successful history -- and an ambitious future. We operate under the umbrella of the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC), which provides legal oversight
and administrative support. In turn, Squeak is proud to be a member organization supporting SFC's ideals, which are compatible with our own goals and values.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">What is needed?</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Mainly relying on the dedication and motivation of our volunteer community, Squeak operates with a modest budget. We have ongoing costs to maintain our infrastructure, and it is important for all to keep Squeak's services
up and running. These include the squeak.org web site, mailing lists, code repositories, and more.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Our budget is administered by SFC, who, providing the legal support, receives just 1 dollar for every 10 dollars donated. The other 90 percent go directly into Squeak's account to then pay for our servers.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a href="https://squeak.org/"><span style="font-size: 10pt">https://squeak.org/</span></a><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (PayPal via "Donate" button)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a href="https://sfconservancy.org/donate/"><span style="font-size: 10pt">https://sfconservancy.org/donate/</span></a><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (Instructions for wire transfer)</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Please think about supporting Squeak in a way that fits your own budget. Maybe you can donate on a regular basis. Maybe you can only afford it once. Having fun playing with Squeak? Think about $10 a year. Did or do you
benefit from Squeak somehow in your professional career? Think about $100 a year. Maybe you are a company that actively uses Squeak in their technology stack? Our budget could definitely benefit from $1000 a year or more.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Why now?</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">We want to establish a more sustainable funding without having to rely on occasional, unpredictable credits programs for open-source software.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">We are currently migrating our services from Rackspace (</span><a href="https://www.rackspace.com/"><span style="font-size: 10pt">https://www.rackspace.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">) to Hetzner (</span><a href="https://www.hetzner.com/"><span style="font-size: 10pt">https://www.hetzner.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">).
In recent years, we have benefited from Rackspace's no-cost support. While we are very grateful for that support, it is no longer available. In fact, it leaped from no-cost to high-cost, which has been eating our funds quite a lot during the recent months
of migration efforts. Fortunately, our low-cost target, Hetzner, looks very promising to be donation-backed for the time to come.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Please consider making a donation to Squeak and SFC, and encourage your company or educational institution to think of supporting our project as well.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a href="https://squeak.org/"><span style="font-size: 10pt">https://squeak.org/</span></a><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (PayPal via "Donate" button)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a href="https://sfconservancy.org/donate/"><span style="font-size: 10pt">https://sfconservancy.org/donate/</span></a><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (Instructions for wire transfer)</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">First-time donors are especially appreciated.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">So, if you love Squeak, then please consider a donation and keep on having fun with our object-oriented, interactive programming system, the Smalltalk language, and the whole Squeak experience.</span></div>
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