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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 29.06.2022 um 12:59 schrieb Thiede,
Christoph:<br>
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<p>Hi Marcel, hi all,</p>
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<p>thank you for the call! This seems to be an important issue
and it would really be a pity if such a great project
<span>failed because of something as mundane as money.</span></p>
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<p>> <span style="font-size: 12pt;">What is needed?</span></p>
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<div>Could you maybe elaborate further on *how much* will
actually be needed in total?</div>
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<div>I do not intend to mistrust anyone, but I think that some
people might be more motivated to donate if there was more
transparency regarding the
<b>actual</b> or <b>planned spendings</b> as well as the <b>received
donations.</b> No fancy dashboard required, but a few rough
numbers once per year would be great.</div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">A</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">pparently, you can get a simple </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">Hetzner server
</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">for</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"> up </span><span style="font-size:
12pt;">to $</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">60</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">0/year -</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-size:
12pt;">so f</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">or what do
we need multiple thousands of dollars each year?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Will the amount of donations
have a direct impact on the time my image needs to update
etc.? </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">And c</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">ould there be
</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">some</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"> room for significant financial
optimizations, for instance in the Monticello
infrastructure? :-)</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">> </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">Fortunately, our low-cost target,
Hetzner, looks very promising to be donation-backed for the
time to come.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">
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<div>For clarification: Does Hetzner provide a similar
no-cost support option to Rackspace or are you talking
about an extrapolation of the donations that squeak.org
has received in the past? :-)</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div>Christoph</div>
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Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2022 11:07:11<br>
<b>An:</b> squeak-dev<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [squeak-dev] Call for Donation | Squeak Needs
Your Support</font>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Dear Squeakers,
Smalltalkers, and friends of object-oriented, interactive
programming systems!</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Please consider making
a donation to Squeak, and encourage your company or
educational institution to think of supporting our
project.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a
href="https://squeak.org/" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size: 10pt">https://squeak.org/</span></a><span
style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (PayPal via "Donate" button)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a
href="https://sfconservancy.org/donate/"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size: 10pt">https://sfconservancy.org/donate/</span></a><span
style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (Instructions for wire
transfer)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">The Squeak project is
an open-source project with a long, pioneering, and
successful history -- and an ambitious future. We operate
under the umbrella of the Software Freedom Conservancy
(SFC), which provides legal oversight and administrative
support. In turn, Squeak is proud to be a member
organization supporting SFC's ideals, which are compatible
with our own goals and values.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">What is needed?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Mainly relying on the
dedication and motivation of our volunteer community,
Squeak operates with a modest budget. We have ongoing
costs to maintain our infrastructure, and it is important
for all to keep Squeak's services up and running. These
include the squeak.org web site, mailing lists, code
repositories, and more.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Our budget is
administered by SFC, who, providing the legal support,
receives just 1 dollar for every 10 dollars donated. The
other 90 percent go directly into Squeak's account to then
pay for our servers.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a
href="https://squeak.org/" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size: 10pt">https://squeak.org/</span></a><span
style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (PayPal via "Donate" button)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a
href="https://sfconservancy.org/donate/"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size: 10pt">https://sfconservancy.org/donate/</span></a><span
style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (Instructions for wire
transfer)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Please think about
supporting Squeak in a way that fits your own budget.
Maybe you can donate on a regular basis. Maybe you can
only afford it once. Having fun playing with Squeak? Think
about $10 a year. Did or do you benefit from Squeak
somehow in your professional career? Think about $100 a
year. Maybe you are a company that actively uses Squeak in
their technology stack? Our budget could definitely
benefit from $1000 a year or more.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Why now?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">We want to establish a
more sustainable funding without having to rely on
occasional, unpredictable credits programs for open-source
software.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">We are currently
migrating our services from Rackspace (</span><a
href="https://www.rackspace.com/" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size: 10pt">https://www.rackspace.com</span></a><span
style="font-size: 13.3333px">) to Hetzner (</span><a
href="https://www.hetzner.com/" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size: 10pt">https://www.hetzner.com</span></a><span
style="font-size: 13.3333px">). In recent years, we have
benefited from Rackspace's no-cost support. While we are
very grateful for that support, it is no longer available.
In fact, it leaped from no-cost to high-cost, which has
been eating our funds quite a lot during the recent months
of migration efforts. Fortunately, our low-cost target,
Hetzner, looks very promising to be donation-backed for
the time to come.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">Please consider making
a donation to Squeak and SFC, and encourage your company
or educational institution to think of supporting our
project as well.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a
href="https://squeak.org/" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size: 10pt">https://squeak.org/</span></a><span
style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (PayPal via "Donate" button)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">-> </span><a
href="https://sfconservancy.org/donate/"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size: 10pt">https://sfconservancy.org/donate/</span></a><span
style="font-size: 13.3333px"> (Instructions for wire
transfer)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">First-time donors are
especially appreciated.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">So, if you love
Squeak, then please consider a donation and keep on having
fun with our object-oriented, interactive programming
system, the Smalltalk language, and the whole Squeak
experience.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px"><br>
</span></div>
<div>The Squeak Oversight Board on behalf of the Squeak
community<br>
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