<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Its an old 2011 who is only Apple supported to 10.13:<div class=""><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><b class="">Hardware Overview:</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Model Name:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>MacBook Pro</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Model Identifier:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>MacBookPro8,1</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Processor Name:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Intel Core i7</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Processor Speed:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>2.7 GHz</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Number of Processors:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Total Number of Cores:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>2</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> L2 Cache (per Core):<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>256 KB</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> L3 Cache:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>4 MB</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Hyper-Threading Technology:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Enabled</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Memory:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>8 GB</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Boot ROM Version:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>87.0.0.0.0</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> SMC Version (system):<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1.68f99</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Serial Number (system):<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>C02G669EDRJ9</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Hardware UUID:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>DC85D6C6-A8B9-506A-8753-3AA32ACDA180</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 169.9px; text-indent: -169.9px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Sudden Motion Sensor:</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 65.2px; text-indent: -45.3px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> State:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Enabled</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="">Graphics/Display:</div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 134.7px; text-indent: -134.8px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><b class="">Intel HD Graphics 3000:</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 134.7px; text-indent: -134.8px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Chipset Model:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Intel HD Graphics 3000</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 134.7px; text-indent: -134.8px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Type:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>GPU</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 134.7px; text-indent: -134.8px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Bus:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Built-In</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 134.7px; text-indent: -134.8px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> VRAM (Dynamic, Max):<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>512 MB</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 134.7px; text-indent: -134.8px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Vendor:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Intel</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 134.7px; text-indent: -134.8px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Device ID:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>0x0126</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 134.7px; text-indent: -134.8px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Revision ID:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>0x0009</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 134.7px; text-indent: -134.8px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Displays:</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><b class="">Color LCD:</b></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Display Type:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>LCD</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Resolution:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1280 x 800</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> UI Looks like:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1280 x 800</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Framebuffer Depth:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>24-Bit Color (ARGB8888)</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Main Display:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Yes</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Mirror:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Off</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Online:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Yes</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Rotation:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Supported</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""> Automatically Adjust Brightness:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>No</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 204.1px; text-indent: -184.1px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><br class=""></div><div>Really I don't use the MVC very much, so is not very important to me, I also have an Pi 3B+ who can use.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 13 Aug 2022, at 11:29, Bruce O'Neel <<a href="mailto:bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch" class="">bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Hi,<br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">So which Mac Power Book?<br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I'm trying to track down info about the display.<br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">It might help to run System Report, or what 10.14 called it to see the info about the display.<br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">cheers<br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">bruce<br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span id="cid:2b456032378f72c0c1fc96275c00c479@infomaniak.com"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 at 18.24.53.png></span><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="answerContentMessage ik_mail_quote" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class="">On 2022-08-13T17:33:42.000+02:00, Javier Diaz-Reinoso <<a href="mailto:javier_diaz_r@mac.com" class="">javier_diaz_r@mac.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="ws-ng-quote"><div class="ws-ng-mail-style--516325eJzz9HPyjwAABGYBgQ"><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 13 Aug 2022, at 02:21, Bruce O'Neel <<a class="defaultMailLink" href="mailto:bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch">bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi,<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So it does work ok on 10.15. I guess you stay on 10.14 because 10.15 doesn't work on your mac, right?<br class=""></div></div></blockquote>Yes<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I did see these sorts of problems when we were working towards a release and it might be related to the HDPI code that was put in. Is it possible to try changing the resolution of the screen and see if that fixes it?<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote>No, this is a MBP 1280x800 I can only change to 1152x720 or 1024x840 neither works.</div><div class="">Testing in 5.3 I see the Quit entry in the mac menu also don't work to exit the image (why?) so that is not relevant. <br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Also, what is the display? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div></div></blockquote>Only the gray background:</div><br class=""></div><div class=""><Screen Shot 2022-08-13 at 10.17.12.png><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">bruce<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="defaultMailLink" id="cid:<a href="><a href="mailto:fbe1c8cdc44f10e9e2867310e1395ab2@infomaniak.com" class="">fbe1c8cdc44f10e9e2867310e1395ab2@infomaniak.com</a>"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 at 09.17.54.png></span><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="ik_mail_quote-516325eJzz9HPyjwAABGYBgQ"><div class="">On 2022-08-12T21:02:21.000+02:00, Javier Diaz-Reinoso via Squeak-dev <<a class="defaultMailLink" href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class=""><pre class="" style="white-space: normal;">I download Squeak6.0-22104-64bit.dmg, extract app, run, skip configuration, menu Create MVCProject, enter, click but the main menu don't open, I need to Force Quit to exit the image.<br class=""><br class="">Tested Squeak6.0-22104-64bit-202206021410-Windows-x64 in VirtualBox Win10 and that works OK, so is probably a VM bug.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Mac is in Mojave 10.14.6.</pre></blockquote></div><span class="defaultMailLink" id="cid:<a href="><a href="mailto:fbe1c8cdc44f10e9e2867310e1395ab2@infomaniak.com" class="">fbe1c8cdc44f10e9e2867310e1395ab2@infomaniak.com</a>"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 at 09.17.54.png></span><br class=""></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><span id="cid:2b456032378f72c0c1fc96275c00c479@infomaniak.com"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 at 18.24.53.png></span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>