<html><head></head><body> <div>“<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight- -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret- font-family: "Inter var", ui-sans-serif, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; font-size: 14px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; float: none; display: inline !important;">This is because the time it takes for a given number of cars to travel a fixed distance is directly proportional to the number of cars.”</span></div><div><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight- -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret- font-family: "Inter var", ui-sans-serif, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; font-size: 14px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; float: none; display: inline !important;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight- -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret- font-family: "Inter var", ui-sans-serif, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; font-size: 14px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; float: none; display: inline !important;">Ooops!<caret></caret></span></div><div><br></div><div id="protonmail_signature_block" class="protonmail_signature_block"><div>—<br>Have a good one; keep it, light.<br>Kindly, rabbit . .. … ‘…^,^ 🐇🐇🐇<br><br>Sent from Callisto House mobile - Ganymede<br>:: decentralized mobile homeless solutions ::</div></div> <div class="signature_br" contenteditable="false"><br></div><div class="signature_br" contenteditable="false"><br></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 16:41, Eliot Miranda <<a href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com" class="">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"> My favourite example of the fact the ChatGPT LLM is essentially a bulldhit artist is the following:<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.learngpt.com/posts/4-cars-leave-haifa-together-and-arrive-in-tel-aviv">https://www.learngpt.com/posts/4-cars-leave-haifa-together-and-arrive-in-tel-aviv</a></div><div><br></div><div><p class="heading" style="border: 0px solid rgb(229, 231, 235); box-sizing: border-box; --tw-border-spacing-x: 0; --tw-border-spacing-y: 0; --tw-translate-x: 0; --tw-translate-y: 0; --tw-rotate: 0; --tw-skew-x: 0; --tw-skew-y: 0; --tw-scale-x: 1; --tw-scale-y: 1; --tw-pan-x: ; --tw-pan-y: ; --tw-pinch-zoom: ; --tw-scroll-snap-strictness: proximity; --tw-ordinal: ; --tw-slashed-zero: ; --tw-numeric-figure: ; --tw-numeric-spacing: ; --tw-numeric-fraction: ; --tw-ring-inset: ; --tw-ring-offset-width: 0px; --tw-ring-offset-color: #fff; --tw-ring-color: #3b82f680; --tw-ring-offset-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-ring-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow-colored: 0 0 #0000; --tw-blur: ; --tw-brightness: ; --tw-contrast: ; --tw-grayscale: ; --tw-hue-rotate: ; --tw-invert: ; --tw-saturate: ; --tw-sepia: ; --tw-drop-shadow: ; --tw-backdrop-blur: ; --tw-backdrop-brightness: ; --tw-backdrop-contrast: ; --tw-backdrop-grayscale: ; --tw-backdrop-hue-rotate: ; --tw-backdrop-invert: ; --tw-backdrop-opacity: ; --tw-backdrop-saturate: ; --tw-backdrop-sepia: ; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; width: 237px; font-size: 0.875rem; line-height: 1.25rem; font-weight: 600; font-family: "Inter var", ui-sans-serif, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; margin-top: 0px !important; --tw-text-opacity: 1 !important; color: rgb(31 41 55/var(--tw-text-opacity)) !important;">Human:</p><p class="" style="border: 0px solid rgb(229, 231, 235); box-sizing: border-box; --tw-border-spacing-x: 0; --tw-border-spacing-y: 0; --tw-translate-x: 0; --tw-translate-y: 0; --tw-rotate: 0; --tw-skew-x: 0; --tw-skew-y: 0; --tw-scale-x: 1; --tw-scale-y: 1; --tw-pan-x: ; --tw-pan-y: ; --tw-pinch-zoom: ; --tw-scroll-snap-strictness: proximity; --tw-ordinal: ; --tw-slashed-zero: ; --tw-numeric-figure: ; --tw-numeric-spacing: ; --tw-numeric-fraction: ; --tw-ring-inset: ; --tw-ring-offset-width: 0px; --tw-ring-offset-color: #fff; --tw-ring-color: #3b82f680; --tw-ring-offset-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-ring-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow-colored: 0 0 #0000; --tw-blur: ; --tw-brightness: ; --tw-contrast: ; --tw-grayscale: ; --tw-hue-rotate: ; --tw-invert: ; --tw-saturate: ; --tw-sepia: ; --tw-drop-shadow: ; --tw-backdrop-blur: ; --tw-backdrop-brightness: ; --tw-backdrop-contrast: ; --tw-backdrop-grayscale: ; --tw-backdrop-hue-rotate: ; --tw-backdrop-invert: ; --tw-backdrop-opacity: ; --tw-backdrop-saturate: ; --tw-backdrop-sepia: ; margin: 1em 0px; width: 237px; font-size: 0.875rem; line-height: 1.25rem; font-family: "Inter var", ui-sans-serif, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; --tw-text-opacity: 1 !important; color: rgb(31 41 55/var(--tw-text-opacity)) !important;">4 cars leave Haifa together and arrive in Tel Aviv after two hours. Explain briefly how long would it take for 8 cars?</p><p class="heading" style="border: 0px solid rgb(229, 231, 235); box-sizing: border-box; --tw-border-spacing-x: 0; --tw-border-spacing-y: 0; --tw-translate-x: 0; --tw-translate-y: 0; --tw-rotate: 0; --tw-skew-x: 0; --tw-skew-y: 0; --tw-scale-x: 1; --tw-scale-y: 1; --tw-pan-x: ; --tw-pan-y: ; --tw-pinch-zoom: ; --tw-scroll-snap-strictness: proximity; --tw-ordinal: ; --tw-slashed-zero: ; --tw-numeric-figure: ; --tw-numeric-spacing: ; --tw-numeric-fraction: ; --tw-ring-inset: ; --tw-ring-offset-width: 0px; --tw-ring-offset-color: #fff; --tw-ring-color: #3b82f680; --tw-ring-offset-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-ring-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow-colored: 0 0 #0000; --tw-blur: ; --tw-brightness: ; --tw-contrast: ; --tw-grayscale: ; --tw-hue-rotate: ; --tw-invert: ; --tw-saturate: ; --tw-sepia: ; --tw-drop-shadow: ; --tw-backdrop-blur: ; --tw-backdrop-brightness: ; --tw-backdrop-contrast: ; --tw-backdrop-grayscale: ; --tw-backdrop-hue-rotate: ; --tw-backdrop-invert: ; --tw-backdrop-opacity: ; --tw-backdrop-saturate: ; --tw-backdrop-sepia: ; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; width: 237px; font-size: 0.875rem; line-height: 1.25rem; font-weight: 600; font-family: "Inter var", ui-sans-serif, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; margin-top: 0px !important; --tw-text-opacity: 1 !important; color: rgb(31 41 55/var(--tw-text-opacity)) !important;"><br></p><p class="heading" style="border: 0px solid rgb(229, 231, 235); box-sizing: border-box; --tw-border-spacing-x: 0; --tw-border-spacing-y: 0; --tw-translate-x: 0; --tw-translate-y: 0; --tw-rotate: 0; --tw-skew-x: 0; --tw-skew-y: 0; --tw-scale-x: 1; --tw-scale-y: 1; --tw-pan-x: ; --tw-pan-y: ; --tw-pinch-zoom: ; --tw-scroll-snap-strictness: proximity; --tw-ordinal: ; --tw-slashed-zero: ; --tw-numeric-figure: ; --tw-numeric-spacing: ; --tw-numeric-fraction: ; --tw-ring-inset: ; --tw-ring-offset-width: 0px; --tw-ring-offset-color: #fff; --tw-ring-color: #3b82f680; --tw-ring-offset-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-ring-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow-colored: 0 0 #0000; --tw-blur: ; --tw-brightness: ; --tw-contrast: ; --tw-grayscale: ; --tw-hue-rotate: ; --tw-invert: ; --tw-saturate: ; --tw-sepia: ; --tw-drop-shadow: ; --tw-backdrop-blur: ; --tw-backdrop-brightness: ; --tw-backdrop-contrast: ; --tw-backdrop-grayscale: ; --tw-backdrop-hue-rotate: ; --tw-backdrop-invert: ; --tw-backdrop-opacity: ; --tw-backdrop-saturate: ; --tw-backdrop-sepia: ; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; width: 237px; font-size: 0.875rem; line-height: 1.25rem; font-weight: 600; font-family: "Inter var", ui-sans-serif, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; margin-top: 0px !important; --tw-text-opacity: 1 !important; color: rgb(31 41 55/var(--tw-text-opacity)) !important;">ChatGPT:</p><p class="" style="border: 0px solid rgb(229, 231, 235); box-sizing: border-box; --tw-border-spacing-x: 0; --tw-border-spacing-y: 0; --tw-translate-x: 0; --tw-translate-y: 0; --tw-rotate: 0; --tw-skew-x: 0; --tw-skew-y: 0; --tw-scale-x: 1; --tw-scale-y: 1; --tw-pan-x: ; --tw-pan-y: ; --tw-pinch-zoom: ; --tw-scroll-snap-strictness: proximity; --tw-ordinal: ; --tw-slashed-zero: ; --tw-numeric-figure: ; --tw-numeric-spacing: ; --tw-numeric-fraction: ; --tw-ring-inset: ; --tw-ring-offset-width: 0px; --tw-ring-offset-color: #fff; --tw-ring-color: #3b82f680; --tw-ring-offset-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-ring-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow-colored: 0 0 #0000; --tw-blur: ; --tw-brightness: ; --tw-contrast: ; --tw-grayscale: ; --tw-hue-rotate: ; --tw-invert: ; --tw-saturate: ; --tw-sepia: ; --tw-drop-shadow: ; --tw-backdrop-blur: ; --tw-backdrop-brightness: ; --tw-backdrop-contrast: ; --tw-backdrop-grayscale: ; --tw-backdrop-hue-rotate: ; --tw-backdrop-invert: ; --tw-backdrop-opacity: ; --tw-backdrop-saturate: ; --tw-backdrop-sepia: ; margin: 1em 0px; width: 237px; font-size: 0.875rem; line-height: 1.25rem; font-family: "Inter var", ui-sans-serif, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; --tw-text-opacity: 1 !important; color: rgb(31 41 55/var(--tw-text-opacity)) !important;">If 4 cars take 2 hours to travel from Haifa to Tel Aviv, then it would take 8 cars twice as long, or 4 hours, to travel the same distance. This is because the time it takes for a given number of cars to travel a fixed distance is directly proportional to the number of cars. Therefore, if the number of cars is doubled, the time it takes to travel the same distance will also be doubled.</p><p class="" style="border: 0px solid rgb(229, 231, 235); box-sizing: border-box; --tw-border-spacing-x: 0; --tw-border-spacing-y: 0; --tw-translate-x: 0; --tw-translate-y: 0; --tw-rotate: 0; --tw-skew-x: 0; --tw-skew-y: 0; --tw-scale-x: 1; --tw-scale-y: 1; --tw-pan-x: ; --tw-pan-y: ; --tw-pinch-zoom: ; --tw-scroll-snap-strictness: proximity; --tw-ordinal: ; --tw-slashed-zero: ; --tw-numeric-figure: ; --tw-numeric-spacing: ; --tw-numeric-fraction: ; --tw-ring-inset: ; --tw-ring-offset-width: 0px; --tw-ring-offset-color: #fff; --tw-ring-color: #3b82f680; --tw-ring-offset-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-ring-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow: 0 0 #0000; --tw-shadow-colored: 0 0 #0000; --tw-blur: ; --tw-brightness: ; --tw-contrast: ; --tw-grayscale: ; --tw-hue-rotate: ; --tw-invert: ; --tw-saturate: ; --tw-sepia: ; --tw-drop-shadow: ; --tw-backdrop-blur: ; --tw-backdrop-brightness: ; --tw-backdrop-contrast: ; --tw-backdrop-grayscale: ; --tw-backdrop-hue-rotate: ; --tw-backdrop-invert: ; --tw-backdrop-opacity: ; --tw-backdrop-saturate: ; --tw-backdrop-sepia: ; margin: 1em 0px; width: 237px; font-size: 0.875rem; line-height: 1.25rem; font-family: "Inter var", ui-sans-serif, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; --tw-text-opacity: 1 !important; color: rgb(31 41 55/var(--tw-text-opacity)) !important;"><br></p><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">A more salient question one might ask of ChatGPT and others is</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Human: how long does it take to get to post-truth, or are we already there?</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">And follow up:</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Human: When one has arrived in post-truth how does one know if one has arrived?</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Eliot, happily living in the nincompoposcene…</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">_,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)</span></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 8, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Chris Muller <asqueaker@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>All the hubbub finally got me excited enough to sit down and "meet" ChatGPT. A brief sign up process abruptly gave way to my "First Contact." As if it realized my presence before I realized its, there it was, the Faceless White Canvas, staring at me, waiting, even daring me to talk about <u>anything</u>. For me, it was a startlingly surreal experience that sent a chill down my spine, as if talking to an alien for the first time.</div><div><br></div><div>I therefore decided to start with something concrete, Smalltalk. Something versed enough in to help me <u>understand its understanding</u>, and whether it can actually "learn".</div><div><br></div><div>90% of the conversation centers on this one question for the purpose of exploring its limitations and self-contradictions.<br></div><div><br></div><div><img alt="image.png" width="452" height="77" src="cid:ii_lco2zzoq0" src-original-pm-cid="cid:ii_lco2zzoq0"><br></div><div><div>I think it's safe to say we aren't in danger of losing our glamourous, high-paying jobs as Smalltalk Superstars. It helps me understand what ChatGPT is -- a <u>language</u> model, not a domain expert, and not a logical inference engine. Certainly fun, but questionable utility.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Here's the full conversation.<br></div><div><br></div><a href="https://sharegpt.com/c/hswnfmT">https://sharegpt.com/c/hswnfmT</a><br><div><br></div><div> - Chris</div></div>
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