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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 26, 2023, at 5:24 AM, Jaromir Matas <mail@jaromir.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hi,</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Something like this?<br><span id="cid:image002.png@01D9318F.4BD317B0"><99D43E79AF32439B99779C695BC4EE67.png></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I’ve copied the important items from the submenus to the top rather then “moving” them up. Btw the printer icon next to ‘print-it’ is imo quite confusing :)</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">> Does your keyboard not have a CTRL key?<br><br></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I tend use my left hand to support my chin while browsing the code (which is most of the time) :)</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="CS">--</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><strong><span style="font-family: "Calibri Light", sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: normal;">Jaromír Matas</span></strong><span style="font-family: "Calibri Light", sans-serif; color: rgb(85, 85, 85);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(143, 170, 220);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: none; padding: 0in;"><b>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:stephen@heaveneverywhere.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">Stephen Travis Pope</a><br><b>Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, January 26, 2023 0:06<br><b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">The general-purpose Squeak developers list</a><br><b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [squeak-dev] Text editor menu simplified</div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I invite others to send out screen shots and code for other options for the text/code editor menus.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">stp<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, serif;">--------<br><br>Stephen Travis Pope Ojai, California, USA<br> </span><span id="cid:image003.png@01D93190.AECECB60"><3061F330B4E14223813BDD0D2694C9C2.png></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, serif;"><br> <a href="http://heaveneverywhere.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://HeavenEverywhere.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, serif;"> <a href="http://fastlabinc.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://FASTLabInc.com</a></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, serif;"> <a href="https://vimeo.com/user19434036/videos" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://vimeo.com/user19434036/videos</a></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, serif;"> <a href="http://heaveneverywhere.com/Reflections" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://heaveneverywhere.com/Reflections</a></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, serif;"><br><br></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Jan 25, 2023, at 12:31 PM, Jakob Reschke <<a href="mailto:jakres+squeak@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">jakres+squeak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Am Mi., 25. Jan. 2023 um 16:07 Uhr schrieb Tobias Pape <<a href="mailto:Das.Linux@gmx.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">Das.Linux@gmx.de</a>>:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 40.8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hi<br><br><br>> On 25. Jan 2023, at 15:58, Stephen Travis Pope <<a href="mailto:stephen@heaveneverywhere.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">stephen@heaveneverywhere.com</a>> wrote:<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Obviously, my text editor menu proposal is the extreme case, and we are free to adopt a compromise, such as putting cut/copy/paste and doIt/printIt/inspectIt in the top-level menu.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> My reasoning was that a menu with 27 items at the top level (starting with fonts and projects) needed to rearranged.<br><br>No objection to this goal :D<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">+1, especially with regards to the "fonts and projects" remark. ;-)<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I too would like the cut/copy/paste/do/debug/inspect/explore to remain at the top level, possibly also find/replace/undo/redo. Actually I would also prefer senders/implementors/references at the top level, at least in CodeHolders and related models.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">But style, project links, copy as html, show bytecodes... not so much. Button for it, tally and spy could also be stashed in a submenu in my opinion.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>