<div dir="ltr">I like this compromise!<div></div><div><br></div><div>The edit menu reminds me that Squeak does not have anything like a main menu in applications or tools (neither at the top of the window itself like under Windows, nor at the top of the screen like under macOS).</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Do., 26. Jan. 2023 um 20:02 Uhr schrieb Stephen Travis Pope <<a href="mailto:stephen@heaveneverywhere.com">stephen@heaveneverywhere.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div>Hi all,<div><br></div><div>Here’s another attempt at compromise:</div><div><br></div><div></div></div><div><div></div><div><br></div><div>and the code</div><div><br></div><div></div></div><div><div></div><div><br></div><div>stp<br><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 26, 2023, at 5:24 AM, Jaromir Matas <<a href="mailto:mail@jaromir.net" target="_blank">mail@jaromir.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hi,</div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Something like this?<br><span id="m_7224539667808856442cid:image002.png@01D9318F.4BD317B0"><99D43E79AF32439B99779C695BC4EE67.png></span></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I’ve copied the important items from the submenus to the top rather then “moving” them up. Btw the printer icon next to ‘print-it’ is imo quite confusing :)</div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">> Does your keyboard not have a CTRL key?<br><br></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I tend use my left hand to support my chin while browsing the code (which is most of the time) :)</div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="CS">--</span></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-weight:normal">Jaromír Matas</span></strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:rgb(85,85,85)"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(143,170,220)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:<span> </span></b><a href="mailto:stephen@heaveneverywhere.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Stephen Travis Pope</a><br><b>Sent:<span> </span></b>Thursday, January 26, 2023 0:06<br><b>To:<span> </span></b><a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">The general-purpose Squeak developers list</a><br><b>Subject:<span> </span></b>Re: [squeak-dev] Text editor menu simplified</div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I invite others to send out screen shots and code for other options for the text/code editor menus.<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">stp<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br></span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,serif">--------<br><br>Stephen Travis Pope Ojai, California, USA<br> </span><span id="m_7224539667808856442cid:image003.png@01D93190.AECECB60"><3061F330B4E14223813BDD0D2694C9C2.png></span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,serif"><br> <a href="http://heaveneverywhere.com/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://HeavenEverywhere.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,serif"> <a href="http://fastlabinc.com/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://FASTLabInc.com</a></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,serif"> <a href="https://vimeo.com/user19434036/videos" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://vimeo.com/user19434036/videos</a></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,serif"> <a href="http://heaveneverywhere.com/Reflections" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://heaveneverywhere.com/Reflections</a></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,serif"><br><br></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br><br><u></u><u></u></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Jan 25, 2023, at 12:31 PM, Jakob Reschke <<a href="mailto:jakres+squeak@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">jakres+squeak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Am Mi., 25. Jan. 2023 um 16:07 Uhr schrieb Tobias Pape <<a href="mailto:Das.Linux@gmx.de" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Das.Linux@gmx.de</a>>:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt 40.8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hi<br><br><br>> On 25. Jan 2023, at 15:58, Stephen Travis Pope <<a href="mailto:stephen@heaveneverywhere.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">stephen@heaveneverywhere.com</a>> wrote:<br>><span> </span><br>><span> </span><br>> Obviously, my text editor menu proposal is the extreme case, and we are free to adopt a compromise, such as putting cut/copy/paste and doIt/printIt/inspectIt in the top-level menu.<br>><span> </span><br>> My reasoning was that a menu with 27 items at the top level (starting with fonts and projects) needed to rearranged.<br><br>No objection to this goal :D<u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">+1, especially with regards to the "fonts and projects" remark. ;-)<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I too would like the cut/copy/paste/do/debug/inspect/explore to remain at the top level, possibly also find/replace/undo/redo. Actually I would also prefer senders/implementors/references at the top level, at least in CodeHolders and related models.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">But style, project links, copy as html, show bytecodes... not so much. Button for it, tally and spy could also be stashed in a submenu in my opinion.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><br style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><br>
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