[Squeak-e] What is E and squeak-e?
shane at shaneroberts.com
shane at shaneroberts.com
Sat Feb 1 17:38:20 CET 2003
OK, I will study the erights.org site and see what I get out of it.
On 1 Feb 2003 at 16:31, Robert Withers wrote:
> That's great. You and I are in a similar situation. I know a limited
> amount about capabilities and even less about how to implement a
> language to support them. That is why we are here on this list. In
> my understanding, the basic premise is that you can only send a
> message to a reference you have. You can get references only a few
> ways. Someone basically has to give you the reference to an object.
> The language and environment should be secure from leaking references.
> I would recommend reading as much as possible on the erights site. It
> is very interesting.
> On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:52 PM, shane at shaneroberts.com
> > Rob,
> > I'm probably familiar with some of the background.
> > I have been a programmer since 1980 and have followed trends in the
> > industry over the years, to a certain extent.
> > I am familiar with the background of Smalltalk and Squeak.
> > What I am not familiar with is capabilities, which I only stumbled
> > on recently. My interest in the E-list is that I want to understand
> > how to implement Internet security in relation to distributed
> > objects, secure communications, and resisting hacker attacks (not
> > sure there is a way to defend against denial of service under the
> > present Internet implementation, except for certain router
> > configuration techniques).
> > Anyway, in skimming through the capabilities literature, it seems
> > access lists are considered cumbersome and ineffectual, and that
> > "capabilities or better." Thus I am curious to learn more.
> > Shane
> > On 1 Feb 2003 at 14:32, Robert Withers wrote:
> >> Welcome to squeak, Shane.
> >> On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 11:56 PM, shane at shaneroberts.com
> >> wrote:
> >>> Can someone give me a little background on how this list appeared
> >>> and what the topic is?
> >> How much background are you looking for? I believe it starts in
> >> the late '60s :) There is a lot of history here. See
> >> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/389
> >> The list was just formed to take a look at what a secure squeak
> >> would look and smell like.
> >> see http://www.squeak.org and http://www.erights.org
> >> cheers,
> >> rob
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