[Squeak-e] What is E and squeak-e?

[Robert Withers]

There are others on this list who could explain bette than I.  i am 
also new to it

rob

On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 05:38 PM, shane at shaneroberts.com 
wrote:

> Robert,
> OK, I will study the erights.org site and see what I get out of it.
>
> Shane
>
> On 1 Feb 2003 at 16:31, Robert Withers wrote:
>
>> Shane,
>>
>> That's great.  You and I are in a similar situation.  I know a limited
>> amount about capabilities and even less about how to implement a
>> language to support them.  That is why we are here on this list.  In
>> my understanding, the basic premise is that you can only send a
>> message to a reference you have.  You can get references only a few
>> ways.  Someone basically has to give you the reference to an object.
>> The language and environment should be secure from leaking references.
>>
>> I would recommend reading as much as possible on the erights site.  It
>> is very interesting.
>>
>> cheers,
>> rob
>>
>> On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:52 PM, shane at shaneroberts.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Rob,
>>> I'm probably familiar with some of the background.
>>>
>>> I have been a programmer since 1980 and have followed trends in the
>>> industry over the years, to a certain extent.
>>>
>>> I am familiar with the background of Smalltalk and Squeak.
>>>
>>> What I am not familiar with is capabilities, which I only stumbled
>>> on recently.  My interest in the E-list is that I want to understand
>>> how to implement Internet security in relation to distributed
>>> objects, secure communications, and resisting hacker attacks (not
>>> sure there is a way to defend against denial of service under the
>>> present Internet implementation, except for certain router
>>> configuration techniques).
>>>
>>> Anyway, in skimming through the capabilities literature, it seems
>>> access lists are considered cumbersome and ineffectual, and that
>>> "capabilities or better."  Thus I am curious to learn more.
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>> On 1 Feb 2003 at 14:32, Robert Withers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Welcome to squeak, Shane.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 11:56 PM, shane at shaneroberts.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can someone give me a little background on how this list appeared
>>>>> and what the topic is?
>>>>
>>>> How much background are you looking for?  I believe it starts in
>>>> the late '60s  :)  There is a lot of history here.  See
>>>> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/389
>>>>
>>>> The list was just formed to take a look at what a secure squeak
>>>> would look and smell like.
>>>>
>>>> see http://www.squeak.org and http://www.erights.org
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> rob
>>>>
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