[Squeak-ev] ESUG und Namensgebung

Marcus Denker marcus at ira.uka.de
Fre Jun 28 14:47:47 UTC 2002

 On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 10:29:21AM +0200, Marcus Denker wrote:
> > > Das trifft sich irgendwo ziemlich genau mit meinen Vorstellungen.
> > Meine auch.
> >
> Das ist doch schonmal gut... wir sollten naemlich langsam mal die Mails
> auf der Liste bzgl. dieses Themas "offiziell" beantworten...

Ich habe mal versucht, das auf english zu schreiben... taugt das was?

Hi all,

Sorry for not answering earlier... but we had to discuss this on the 
squeak-ev list first.

So... maybe I start with

What we did

We're in the process of setting up a non-profit association in Germany.
This association will be a legal entity (like a Person or a Company) after
it gets registerd (than we are a "e.V" which es a "registered association").
This will take some time because both the Tax Authorities and the local Court 
are involved in the process.

The bylaws of the association were discussed on the squeak-ev list
for some time, and then some of us (exactly 7, required by law)  met 
at LinuxTag and signed them. There is a nice photo at 

The bylaws are pretty standard for this kind of german association (Verein)
(We copied them from ADA Germany e.V. and then modified them for our
purpose). The bylaws are very much like a constitution for the association:
They contain first a set of goals (What do we want to do?) and then the
bylaws define the structure (simple: board of three (First, Second,
Treasurer), and how these get elected and how to remove them if they do
strange things. 
Members are required to pay a membership-fee.

Have a look at the Babelfish translation:
pretty funny translation, but better than nothing.

So the whole thing is as simple as possible and *very* flexible. We can
simply do what we want and build further structures on the way.
("Do the simplest thing that could possibly work").

Ok. Now 

What we *are*

We consider the german association to be local thing. We discussed this on
the squeak-ev list, and we think that "morphing" squeak-ev into that what
squeakfoundation is planed to be would not be good. Being local instead of
global has some implications...  
Our Vision for squeak-ev was to do something small, but *do* it. 

We agreed on the following:

1) We are not yet registered. Nothing will happen until we are.
2) We consider ourself to be a local organisation.
3) We would like to help building structures to support Squeak, both
   global and european.
4) Because there is no squeakfoundation yet, we are willing to take
   donations as soon as we are registerd. We garantee that this money 
   will be used according to our statutes.

Marcus Denker marcus at ira.uka.de  -- Squeak! http://squeakland.org