[Squeak-fr] Re: Helping VWNC
ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Lun 19 Avr 13:14:53 CEST 2004
Basically smalltalk/x is free but you do not get support. This is not
open-source because I imagine that claus was a bit afraid that he could
not sell software, but I guess that this is just because
he is not aware of alternative to GPL.
Smalltalk/X is compatible with VW, it runs well and fast. some stuffs
such as the concurrency model
are better than VW. In fact claus had a threaded UI model long time ago.
For the mailing-list I do not know. It seems that there was a wiki
somewhere. Have you looked at www.exept.de?
On 18 avr. 04, at 22:09, ALR wrote:
> Hi Stef
> I found cincom's position about licenses unfriendly for developpers,
> Dolphin smalltalk's position is much simple and clear for
> developpers IMHO.
> What is the status of Smalltalk/X ? Is there a mailing list or
> newsgroup ?
> "stéphane ducasse" <ducasse-2EmivuzZTYAXXHkOk0aIfQ at public.gmane.org> a
> écrit dans le message de news:
> 0C0A30F5-8F78-11D8-95DF-000A9573EAE2 at iam.unibe.ch...
> Apparently some high-level managers at cincom are questioning about
> the interest of having
> the non-commercial version of VisualWorks. Apparently the idea of a
> time-bombed version is circulating. I think that we can help VWNC if
> we would simply fill this form
> I filled it and stated that having a trial version limited in time
> would be an step backward and that eventually I would migrate to other
> smalltalks Smalltalk/X and Squeak are great and Smalltalk/X deserves
> more attention.
> I really think that one of the aspect of the survival of VisualWorks
> is linked to the existence of the NC version. I do not think that
> ezboard would exist today if they could not have build a working
> prototype. I know friends developping in VW in the worse time of
> Objectshare that were desesperate and I remember the idea of buying
> the stock option of Objectshare.
> The VisualWorks engineering team is working in the right direction
> and a strong VisualWorks is important for the ***entire*** Smalltalk
> community, so do not think that you are not concerned because you use
> Squeak or another Smalltalk! You are, we need a strong VisualWorks
> full of success stories.
> Prof. Dr. Stephane DUCASSE [ | ]
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> do different? ... especially if, by doing something different,
> today might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes
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