[SqueakDBX] Connection not Valid problem
Mariano Martinez Peck
marianopeck at gmail.com
Sat Sep 26 20:41:31 UTC 2009
You can also put a breakpoint in DBXConnection>>initialize
That message should be sent only once if you are using the same connection.
But just to be sure...if this message is sent more than once it means that
Glorp or someone is creating more connections.
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <
marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 4:06 PM, John Toohey <jt at parspro.com> wrote:
>
>> - http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1249
>>
>
> Excellent.
>
>
>> - Yes, my app uses a single connection via a Singelton DB object.
>>
>
> Ok.
>
>
>>
>> - I have the debugging enabled, but it really slows down the app.
>>
>
> yeah. This is true. This is because of the Transcript, which is extremely
> slow. However, this SqueakDBX feature is only for this purpose: debugging
> errors. Not for production environments.
>
>
>>
>> - I can reproduce this but it usually take a little time. I need to leave
>> the app idle for a period of time, and then access it again.
>>
>>
> Ok. Let me know about the breakpoint in DBXConnection>>internalBeClosed
>
> There is more debugging we can enable. Which is OpenDBX debugging. But we
> can try this in an further step.
>
> If you want to re open the connection, it is easy: DBXConnection>>reOpen
> Perhaps in your case you need a DBXConnection>>reConnect. It is not done
> but it is very easy to do.
> However, I need we should find the real problem.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mariano
>
>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 13:10, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:23 PM, John Toohey <jt at parspro.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> After some more testing, I've managed to recreate a similiar problem to
>>>> what I had with the old driver. (Remember there is a bug in Pharo, whereby
>>>> these types of errors are written to the SqeuakDebug file, and then the
>>>> image locks up)
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you open a bug ticket in Pharo project for this bug? If not, please
>>> do it and give me the link.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Obviously I'm losing the DB connection or it just times out, but how can
>>>> I try these error in my code, and implement a reconnect? I think from the
>>>> stacktrace, the connection is initially valid, and then goes away during one
>>>> of the select queries.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah. The connection seems to be valid at the begging. I have a question
>>>
>>> - All of your application code uses only one connection ? I mean, all of
>>> those queries you have been during were with the same connection ?
>>>
>>> - can you reproduce it ?
>>>
>>> - can you please enable SqueakDBX logging:
>>> http://squeakdbx.smallworks.com.ar/Logging%20and%20profiling
>>>
>>> What I imagine is that the GC took that object and call shutdown, then
>>> close, an that's why the connection is close...but it is weird.
>>> So, can you put a breakpoint in DBXConnection>>internalBeClosed
>>> If this is called, see "who" is calling it. If it is something like
>>> WeakRegistry or similar, it is the GC :)
>>>
>>> I will try to investigate it and let you know.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Mariano
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is the trace that is written to the debug file :-
>>>>
>>>> GlorpDatabaseReadError: SqueakDBX: You cannot execute a query if the
>>>> connection is not open
>>>> 25 September 2009 9:13:28 pm
>>>>
>>>> VM: Mac OS - intel - 1058 - Squeak3.8.1 of '28 Aug 2006' [latest update:
>>>> #6747] Squeak VM 4.1.1b2
>>>> Image: Pharo1.0beta [Latest update: #10451]
>>>>
>>>> SecurityManager state:
>>>> Restricted: false
>>>> FileAccess: true
>>>> SocketAccess: true
>>>> Working Dir
>>>> /Users/jpt/Dev/repos/Dev-Images/pharo1.0-10451-BETAdev09.09.3
>>>> Trusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus
>>>> Untrusted Dir /Users/jpt/Library/Preferences/Squeak/Internet/My Squeak
>>>>
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>handleError:for:
>>>> Receiver: a SqueakDatabaseAccessor
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> exception: SqueakDBXError: SqueakDBX: You cannot execute a query if the
>>>> connect...etc...
>>>> command: a QuerySelectCommand(a SimpleQuery for MarketType)
>>>> errorClass: GlorpDatabaseReadError
>>>> error: GlorpDatabaseReadError: SqueakDBX: You cannot execute a query
>>>> if the con...etc...
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> connection: nil
>>>> currentLogin: a Login(a PostgreSQLPlatform, 'postgres', '847129',
>>>> 'localhost_ju...etc...
>>>> logging: true
>>>> reusePreparedStatements: nil
>>>> deniedCommands: nil
>>>> mutex: a Semaphore()
>>>> dependents: nil
>>>> isInTransaction: false
>>>> databaseDriver: a SqueakDBXDriver
>>>>
>>>> [] in [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeCommand:returnCursor:
>>>> Receiver: a SqueakDatabaseAccessor
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> <<error during printing>
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> connection: nil
>>>> currentLogin: a Login(a PostgreSQLPlatform, 'postgres', '847129',
>>>> 'localhost_ju...etc...
>>>> logging: true
>>>> reusePreparedStatements: nil
>>>> deniedCommands: nil
>>>> mutex: a Semaphore()
>>>> dependents: nil
>>>> isInTransaction: false
>>>> databaseDriver: a SqueakDBXDriver
>>>>
>>>> BlockClosure>>valueWithPossibleArgs:
>>>> Receiver: [closure] in [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeCommand:returnCursor:
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> anArray: an Array(SqueakDBXError: SqueakDBX: You cannot execute a
>>>> query if the ...etc...
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> outerContext: [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeCommand:re...etc...
>>>> startpc: 93
>>>> numArgs: 1
>>>>
>>>> [] in MethodContext(ContextPart)>>handleSignal:
>>>> Receiver: BlockClosure>>on:do:
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> <<error during printing>
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> sender: [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeCommand:returnCu...etc...
>>>> pc: 17
>>>> stackp: 3
>>>> method: a CompiledMethod (2306)
>>>> closureOrNil: nil
>>>> receiver: [closure] in [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeC...etc...
>>>>
>>>> BlockClosure>>ensure:
>>>> Receiver: [closure] in MethodContext(ContextPart)>>handleSignal:
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> aBlock: [closure] in MethodContext(ContextPart)>>handleSignal:
>>>> returnValue: nil
>>>> b: nil
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> outerContext: MethodContext(ContextPart)>>handleSignal:
>>>> startpc: 90
>>>> numArgs: 0
>>>>
>>>> MethodContext(ContextPart)>>handleSignal:
>>>> Receiver: BlockClosure>>on:do:
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> exception: SqueakDBXError: SqueakDBX: You cannot execute a query if the
>>>> connect...etc...
>>>> val: nil
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> sender: [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeCommand:returnCu...etc...
>>>> pc: 17
>>>> stackp: 3
>>>> method: a CompiledMethod (2306)
>>>> closureOrNil: nil
>>>> receiver: [closure] in [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeC...etc...
>>>>
>>>> SqueakDBXError(Exception)>>signal
>>>> Receiver: SqueakDBXError: SqueakDBX: You cannot execute a query if the
>>>> connection is not open
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>>
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> messageText: 'SqueakDBX: You cannot execute a query if the connection
>>>> is not op...etc...
>>>> tag: nil
>>>> signalContext: SqueakDBXError(Exception)>>signal
>>>> handlerContext: BlockClosure>>on:do:
>>>> outerContext: nil
>>>>
>>>> SqueakDBXError(Exception)>>signal:
>>>> Receiver: SqueakDBXError: SqueakDBX: You cannot execute a query if the
>>>> connection is not open
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> signalerText: 'SqueakDBX: You cannot execute a query if the connection
>>>> is not o...etc...
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> messageText: 'SqueakDBX: You cannot execute a query if the connection
>>>> is not op...etc...
>>>> tag: nil
>>>> signalContext: SqueakDBXError(Exception)>>signal
>>>> handlerContext: BlockClosure>>on:do:
>>>> outerContext: nil
>>>>
>>>> SqueakDBXError class(Exception class)>>signal:
>>>> Receiver: SqueakDBXError
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> signalerText: 'SqueakDBX: You cannot execute a query if the connection
>>>> is not o...etc...
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> superclass: DBXError
>>>> methodDict: a MethodDictionary()
>>>> format: 140
>>>> instanceVariables: nil
>>>> organization: ('as yet unclassified')
>>>>
>>>> subclasses: nil
>>>> name: #SqueakDBXError
>>>> classPool: nil
>>>> sharedPools: nil
>>>> environment: Smalltalk
>>>> category: #'OpenDBX-Core-Structure'
>>>> traitComposition: {}
>>>> localSelectors: nil
>>>>
>>>> SqueakDBXError class(DBXError class)>>signal:
>>>> Receiver: SqueakDBXError
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> signalerText: 'You cannot execute a query if the connection is not
>>>> open'
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> superclass: DBXError
>>>> methodDict: a MethodDictionary()
>>>> format: 140
>>>> instanceVariables: nil
>>>> organization: ('as yet unclassified')
>>>>
>>>> subclasses: nil
>>>> name: #SqueakDBXError
>>>> classPool: nil
>>>> sharedPools: nil
>>>> environment: Smalltalk
>>>> category: #'OpenDBX-Core-Structure'
>>>> traitComposition: {}
>>>> localSelectors: nil
>>>>
>>>> DBXConnection>>execute:
>>>> Receiver: a DBXConnection
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> aString: 'SELECT t1.id, t1.typename, t1.description, t1.selectioncount,
>>>> t1.prio...etc...
>>>> aResult: nil
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> platform: a DBXPostgresPlatform
>>>> settings: a DBXConnectionSettings
>>>> handle: nil
>>>> open: a ValueHolder
>>>> connected: a ValueHolder
>>>> result: a DBXResultSet
>>>>
>>>> SqueakDBXDriver>>basicExecuteSQLString:
>>>> Receiver: a SqueakDBXDriver
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> aString: 'SELECT t1.id, t1.typename, t1.description,
>>>> t1.selectioncount, t1.prio...etc...
>>>> result: nil
>>>> rowCollection: nil
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> connection: a DBXConnection
>>>> database: nil
>>>>
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor>>basicExecuteSQLString:
>>>> Receiver: a SqueakDatabaseAccessor
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> aString: 'SELECT t1.id, t1.typename, t1.description, t1.selectioncount,
>>>> t1.prio...etc...
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> connection: nil
>>>> currentLogin: a Login(a PostgreSQLPlatform, 'postgres', '847129',
>>>> 'localhost_ju...etc...
>>>> logging: true
>>>> reusePreparedStatements: nil
>>>> deniedCommands: nil
>>>> mutex: a Semaphore()
>>>> dependents: nil
>>>> isInTransaction: false
>>>> databaseDriver: a SqueakDBXDriver
>>>>
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor>>executeCommandUnbound:
>>>> Receiver: a SqueakDatabaseAccessor
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> aCommand: a QuerySelectCommand(a SimpleQuery for MarketType)
>>>> answerStream: nil
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> connection: nil
>>>> currentLogin: a Login(a PostgreSQLPlatform, 'postgres', '847129',
>>>> 'localhost_ju...etc...
>>>> logging: true
>>>> reusePreparedStatements: nil
>>>> deniedCommands: nil
>>>> mutex: a Semaphore()
>>>> dependents: nil
>>>> isInTransaction: false
>>>> databaseDriver: a SqueakDBXDriver
>>>>
>>>> QuerySelectCommand(DatabaseCommand)>>executeUnboundIn:
>>>> Receiver: a QuerySelectCommand(a SimpleQuery for MarketType)
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> anAccessor: a SqueakDatabaseAccessor
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> useBinding: false
>>>> stream: nil
>>>> sqlString: 'SELECT t1.id, t1.typename, t1.description,
>>>> t1.selectioncount, t1.pr...etc...
>>>> platform: a PostgreSQLPlatform
>>>> parameters: an IdentityDictionary(Field(LIVEEVENTMARKETS.markettype)->3
>>>> )
>>>> blockFactor: nil
>>>> query: a SimpleQuery for MarketType
>>>> boundExpressions: nil
>>>>
>>>> [] in [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeCommand:returnCursor:
>>>> Receiver: a SqueakDatabaseAccessor
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> <<error during printing>
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> connection: nil
>>>> currentLogin: a Login(a PostgreSQLPlatform, 'postgres', '847129',
>>>> 'localhost_ju...etc...
>>>> logging: true
>>>> reusePreparedStatements: nil
>>>> deniedCommands: nil
>>>> mutex: a Semaphore()
>>>> dependents: nil
>>>> isInTransaction: false
>>>> databaseDriver: a SqueakDBXDriver
>>>>
>>>> BlockClosure>>on:do:
>>>> Receiver: [closure] in [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeCommand:returnCursor:
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> exception: Error
>>>> handlerAction: [closure] in [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>exe...etc...
>>>> handlerActive: false
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> outerContext: [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeCommand:re...etc...
>>>> startpc: 70
>>>> numArgs: 0
>>>>
>>>> [] in
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeCommand:returnCursor:
>>>> Receiver: a SqueakDatabaseAccessor
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> command: a QuerySelectCommand(a SimpleQuery for MarketType)
>>>> aBoolean: true
>>>> result: nil
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> connection: nil
>>>> currentLogin: a Login(a PostgreSQLPlatform, 'postgres', '847129',
>>>> 'localhost_ju...etc...
>>>> logging: true
>>>> reusePreparedStatements: nil
>>>> deniedCommands: nil
>>>> mutex: a Semaphore()
>>>> dependents: nil
>>>> isInTransaction: false
>>>> databaseDriver: a SqueakDBXDriver
>>>>
>>>> [] in Semaphore>>critical:
>>>> Receiver: a Semaphore()
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> <<error during printing>
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> firstLink: nil
>>>> lastLink: nil
>>>> excessSignals: 0
>>>>
>>>> BlockClosure>>ensure:
>>>> Receiver: [closure] in Semaphore>>critical:
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> aBlock: [closure] in Semaphore>>critical:
>>>> returnValue: nil
>>>> b: nil
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> outerContext: Semaphore>>critical:
>>>> startpc: 38
>>>> numArgs: 0
>>>>
>>>> Semaphore>>critical:
>>>> Receiver: a Semaphore()
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> <<error during printing>
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> firstLink: nil
>>>> lastLink: nil
>>>> excessSignals: 0
>>>>
>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor(DatabaseAccessor)>>executeCommand:returnCursor:
>>>> Receiver: a SqueakDatabaseAccessor
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> command: a QuerySelectCommand(a SimpleQuery for MarketType)
>>>> aBoolean: true
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> connection: nil
>>>> currentLogin: a Login(a PostgreSQLPlatform, 'postgres', '847129',
>>>> 'localhost_ju...etc...
>>>> logging: true
>>>> reusePreparedStatements: nil
>>>> deniedCommands: nil
>>>> mutex: a Semaphore()
>>>> dependents: nil
>>>> isInTransaction: false
>>>> databaseDriver: a SqueakDBXDriver
>>>>
>>>> [] in SimpleQuery>>rowsFromDatabaseWithParameters:
>>>> Receiver: a SimpleQuery for MarketType
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> <<error during printing>
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> session: a GlorpSession
>>>> prepared: true
>>>> expectedRows: nil
>>>> collectionType: nil
>>>> ordering: nil
>>>> maximumLobSizeToRetrieveDirectly: 32768
>>>> readsOneObject: true
>>>> groupBy: nil
>>>> resultClass: MarketType
>>>> whereClause: Base(MarketType).MARKETTYPES.id =
>>>> Parameter(LIVEEVENTMARKETS.marke...etc...
>>>> base: Base(MarketType)
>>>> limit: 1
>>>> offset: nil
>>>> proxyType: nil
>>>> shouldRefresh: false
>>>> tracing: a Tracing
>>>> builders: an Array(an ObjectBuilder(Base(MarketType)))
>>>> fields: an OrderedCollection(Field(t1.id) Field(t1.typename)
>>>> Field(t1.descripti...etc...
>>>> joins: an OrderedCollection()
>>>> tablePrefix: nil
>>>> customCommand: nil
>>>> tablesToPrint: a SortedCollection(a DatabaseTable(t1))
>>>>
>>>> BlockClosure>>on:do:
>>>> Receiver: [closure] in SimpleQuery>>rowsFromDatabaseWithParameters:
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> exception: GlorpDatabaseReadError
>>>> handlerAction: [closure] in
>>>> SimpleQuery>>rowsFromDatabaseWithParameters:
>>>> handlerActive: false
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> outerContext: SimpleQuery>>rowsFromDatabaseWithParameters:
>>>> startpc: 104
>>>> numArgs: 0
>>>>
>>>> SimpleQuery>>rowsFromDatabaseWithParameters:
>>>> Receiver: a SimpleQuery for MarketType
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> anArray: an IdentityDictionary(Field(LIVEEVENTMARKETS.markettype)->3 )
>>>> command: a QuerySelectCommand(a SimpleQuery for MarketType)
>>>> alreadyTriedAction: #(true)
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> session: a GlorpSession
>>>> prepared: true
>>>> expectedRows: nil
>>>> collectionType: nil
>>>> ordering: nil
>>>> maximumLobSizeToRetrieveDirectly: 32768
>>>> readsOneObject: true
>>>> groupBy: nil
>>>> resultClass: MarketType
>>>> whereClause: Base(MarketType).MARKETTYPES.id =
>>>> Parameter(LIVEEVENTMARKETS.marke...etc...
>>>> base: Base(MarketType)
>>>> limit: 1
>>>> offset: nil
>>>> proxyType: nil
>>>> shouldRefresh: false
>>>> tracing: a Tracing
>>>> builders: an Array(an ObjectBuilder(Base(MarketType)))
>>>> fields: an OrderedCollection(Field(t1.id) Field(t1.typename)
>>>> Field(t1.descripti...etc...
>>>> joins: an OrderedCollection()
>>>> tablePrefix: nil
>>>> customCommand: nil
>>>> tablesToPrint: a SortedCollection(a DatabaseTable(t1))
>>>>
>>>> SimpleQuery(AbstractReadQuery)>>readFromDatabaseWithParameters:
>>>> Receiver: a SimpleQuery for MarketType
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> anArray: an IdentityDictionary(Field(LIVEEVENTMARKETS.markettype)->3 )
>>>> answerStream: nil
>>>> result: nil
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> session: a GlorpSession
>>>> prepared: true
>>>> expectedRows: nil
>>>> collectionType: nil
>>>> ordering: nil
>>>> maximumLobSizeToRetrieveDirectly: 32768
>>>> readsOneObject: true
>>>> groupBy: nil
>>>> resultClass: MarketType
>>>> whereClause: Base(MarketType).MARKETTYPES.id =
>>>> Parameter(LIVEEVENTMARKETS.marke...etc...
>>>> base: Base(MarketType)
>>>> limit: 1
>>>> offset: nil
>>>> proxyType: nil
>>>> shouldRefresh: false
>>>> tracing: a Tracing
>>>> builders: an Array(an ObjectBuilder(Base(MarketType)))
>>>> fields: an OrderedCollection(Field(t1.id) Field(t1.typename)
>>>> Field(t1.descripti...etc...
>>>> joins: an OrderedCollection()
>>>> tablePrefix: nil
>>>> customCommand: nil
>>>> tablesToPrint: a SortedCollection(a DatabaseTable(t1))
>>>>
>>>> SimpleQuery(AbstractReadQuery)>>executeWithParameters:in:
>>>> Receiver: a SimpleQuery for MarketType
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>> parameterArray: an
>>>> IdentityDictionary(Field(LIVEEVENTMARKETS.markettype)->3 )
>>>> aSession: a GlorpSession
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>> session: a GlorpSession
>>>> prepared: true
>>>> expectedRows: nil
>>>> collectionType: nil
>>>> ordering: nil
>>>> maximumLobSizeToRetrieveDirectly: 32768
>>>> readsOneObject: true
>>>> groupBy: nil
>>>> resultClass: MarketType
>>>> whereClause: Base(MarketType).MARKETTYPES.id =
>>>> Parameter(LIVEEVENTMARKETS.marke...etc...
>>>> base: Base(MarketType)
>>>> limit: 1
>>>> offset: nil
>>>> proxyType: nil
>>>> shouldRefresh: false
>>>> tracing: a Tracing
>>>> builders: an Array(an ObjectBuilder(Base(MarketType)))
>>>> fields: an OrderedCollection(Field(t1.id) Field(t1.typename)
>>>> Field(t1.descripti...etc...
>>>> joins: an OrderedCollection()
>>>> tablePrefix: nil
>>>> customCommand: nil
>>>> tablesToPrint: a SortedCollection(a DatabaseTable(t1))
>>>>
>>>> [] in Proxy>>getValue
>>>> Receiver: {uninstantiated MarketType}
>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>>
>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 16:55, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>>>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much! I will then update the webpage and put them
>>>>> there!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:42 PM, John Toohey <jt at parspro.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Attached is the contents of my /usr/local/lib. Hope this is everything
>>>>>> that you need, if not, let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 13:23, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>>>>>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Excellent news!!! I am glad it worked :)
>>>>>>> SqueakDBX is very usable and stable right now. The Glorp part is
>>>>>>> still and development and thus there are some things to complete and
>>>>>>> improve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would appreciate if you can send me the binaries for PostgreSQL for
>>>>>>> Mac if have time to do it ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:52 PM, John Toohey <jt at parspro.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All DB code working now :-) Many thanks for all the help in getting
>>>>>>>> this to work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:00, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>>>>>>>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:42 PM, John Toohey <jt at parspro.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, have everything installed now, but am not sure what changes
>>>>>>>>>> I need to make to my Glorp code. This is my current connect method, that I
>>>>>>>>>> use for Glorp :-connect
>>>>>>>>>> | accessor|
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JulietLogger log:'Database connecting'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> self platform: PostgreSQLPlatform new.
>>>>>>>>>> accessor := DatabaseAccessor forLogin: self createLogin.
>>>>>>>>>> self
>>>>>>>>>> session: ((GlorpSession forSystem: self)
>>>>>>>>>> accessor: accessor;
>>>>>>>>>> yourself);
>>>>>>>>>> connectionFailed: false.
>>>>>>>>>> [accessor login] ifError: [:err | Transcript show: 'JulietDB -
>>>>>>>>>> Connection Problem', err; cr. self connectionFailed: true].
>>>>>>>>>> accessor logging: self enableLogging.
>>>>>>>>>> self glorpSession: self session.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do I need to rewrite this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think you should evaluate this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor DefaultDriver: SqueakDBXDriver.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> somewhere before that code. In a future this will be done
>>>>>>>>> automatically when you load GlorpDBX. I will commit this then.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me know if that worked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:07, John Toohey <jt at parspro.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Had to rebuild a new image, changes file full, and Pharo still
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot condense a change file. So, now I have a refresh image with just
>>>>>>>>>>> GlorpDBX installed. Ran the tests and have 94 passed and one failure. The
>>>>>>>>>>> failed test is DBXQueryNoTimeout and the failing method is #testNoTimeOut.
>>>>>>>>>>> The DBXQuerySetting object's timeout property is Nil, and this throws a DNU
>>>>>>>>>>> exception.
>>>>>>>>>>> Going to try to install Seaside now, and hopefully my own app
>>>>>>>>>>> then.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 09:38, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>>>>>>>>>>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>>>>>>>>>>>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:04 PM, John Toohey <jt at parspro.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I now have a new image with Seaside 3 installed, however when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I run the follow :-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Installer ss project: 'SqueakDBX'; install:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'SqueakDBXPharoLoader'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBXPharoLoader loadGlorpDBX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGConnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load these definitions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGConnection classSide>>buildDefaultFieldConverters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGConnection classSide>>buildStateTransitionTable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I need to install the Postgres driver before I do this? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought it was part of the GlorpDBX install.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I know :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is difficult to explain but there is some places of Glorp
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which still reference to PGConnection. However, it is not used. Don't worry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do a "proceed" and everything will be ok.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. I found the problem. It's time to restrucutre some packages
>>>>>>>>>>>> about Glorp.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will then try to see how to fix this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what happened to SqueakDBX tests and the amount of connections?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did it work my commit ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is a summary of the things we did to GLorp and how to run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GlorpDBX tests:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://squeakdbx.smallworks.com.ar/GLORP integration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, it was a secret that webpage. It is our own website with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seaside and pier to replace the swiki :) We will then do the public ANN
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hahaha.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 21:16, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:12 PM, John Toohey <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jt at parspro.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am running the OpenDBX-Core tests both from the TestRunner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the OBPackageBrowser. The tests run successfully until my DB runs out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connections. Latest Pharo, and latest GlorpDBX installed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John: I have just noticed that a lot of SqueakDBX tests don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release the DB connections, as you guessed. I have just commit. can you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please test it and let me know ? of course, you must first reboot or kill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the active connections ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Name: OpenDBX-Core-Mariano.230
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Author: Mariano
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time: 24 September 2009, 10:15:03 pm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UUID: 19ce8340-3070-4495-a21d-cbe2b63aca0e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ancestors: OpenDBX-Core-HMC.229
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were a lot of SqueakDBX tests that don't release the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection after testing. So, this can result in a "Too many connections
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error". Now, all tests release connections."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 20:52, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:13 PM, John Toohey <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jt at parspro.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, I've installed SqueakGlorp into my existing image,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and added the symlink to the VM for openDBX. I can get up to 44 tests to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pass, but it seems that the tests are not releasing their DB connections, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after a while the rest fail with a "Too many connections error"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These tests you are talking about are SqueakDBX tests or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glorp tests when using SqueakDBX as the driver ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this how it should be for those tests? I am just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selecting the test package and selecting "run tests".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to know which tests are you running, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenDBX-Core-Tests or GlorpTest. Anyway, tests should release connections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this is not done, so we have a bug in our tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:24, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:06 PM, John Toohey <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jt at parspro.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I've managed to build it on a VMWare VM running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubunto, and using the --disable-utils switch, I've built it on OSX also.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However on both systems when I run the test suite I see this :-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent news!!! I tell you: there is an utility called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> odbx-sql that let you send queries trough OpenDBX. However, that utility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires external libraries which seem to have problems, at least in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows. So, when we compile in Windows, we must disable that utility. But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember this is an utility, not OpenDBX core or feature. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important. I didn't know it has problems also with MacOS, so I will update
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the webpage. Thanks for the testing!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> `--> ./odbxtest -b pgsql -h localhost -p 5432 -d juliet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -u postgres -w postgres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_CAP_BASIC: 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_CAP_LO: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_API_VERSION: 10200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_THREAD_SAFE: 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_TLS: 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_CONNECT_TIMEOUT: 1 (using)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_MULTI_STATEMENTS: 1 (using)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_PAGED_RESULTS: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_COMPRESS: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_CAP_BASIC: 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_CAP_LO: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_API_VERSION: 10200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_THREAD_SAFE: 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_TLS: 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_CONNECT_TIMEOUT: 1 (using)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_MULTI_STATEMENTS: 1 (using)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_PAGED_RESULTS: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODBX_OPT_COMPRESS: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WARNING: nonstandard use of \\ in a string literal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LINE 1: SELECT * FROM odbxtest WHERE col = 'a''''\\''b'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HINT: Use the escape string syntax for backslashes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g., E'\\'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Error in odbx_result(): ERROR: relation "odbxtest" does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not exist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Error in odbx_result(): ERROR: relation "odbxtest" does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not exist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if this means there is a problem with the build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (I downloaded to latest one) or a problem with the test suite.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you guessed this seems to be a problem with the test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suit, but the build is seems to be perfect. I will send this part to OpenDBX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list and see if I receive some help. Thanks for the report.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to continue and install GlorpDBX into my Pharo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image, do I need to build a new image, as my current one already has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo-Glorp installed. I've never figured out how to uninstall packages in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smalltalk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah. Me neither :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, what you can do is install just SqueakDBX in that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image and run the SqueakDBX tests, using PostgreSQL to see if everything is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok. You should have all green tests. If you get this, I would really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate if you can make a binary for MacOS :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, you can take a new image and install GlorpDBX as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explained in the wiki. Most of the tests should be green. I say "most"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there are some that fails because of what I told you that we don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support large database fields.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:15, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, John Toohey <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jt at parspro.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm currently trying to build openDBX on OSX. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finally found the postgres client libs and include files, and I've run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./configure -with-backends="pgsql", but when I run make I get this error :-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent you are giving SqueakDBX at least a try. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real thing is this: The squeakDBX team is composed by 4 people. Only one has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Mac and he is very busy with his work. I have ALL databases working on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux and Windows. And I have also prepared binaries for that because I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (dlls, .deb and .rpm). But I cannot do it with Mac because I don't have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mac and I don't know how binaries work on Mac. If you make it work, I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really love you help me generating the binaries so that I can update them to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenDBX website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which OpenDBX version are you trying to compile? You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should try 1.4.3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you try configuring this way please ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./configure --disable-utils --with-backends="pgsql"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it works, I then explain you why that :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Making all in po
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../lib
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DKEYWORDFILE=\"/usr/local/share/opendbx/keywords\"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -I/opt/local/include/postgresql83 -g -O2 -MT odbx_sql-argmap.o -MD -MP -MF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .deps/odbx_sql-argmap.Tpo -c -o odbx_sql-argmap.o `test -f 'argmap.cpp' ||
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo './'`argmap.cpp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mv -f .deps/odbx_sql-argmap.Tpo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .deps/odbx_sql-argmap.Po
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../lib
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DKEYWORDFILE=\"/usr/local/share/opendbx/keywords\"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -I/opt/local/include/postgresql83 -g -O2 -MT odbx_sql-commands.o -MD -MP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -MF .deps/odbx_sql-commands.Tpo -c -o odbx_sql-commands.o `test -f
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'commands.cpp' || echo './'`commands.cpp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mv -f .deps/odbx_sql-commands.Tpo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .deps/odbx_sql-commands.Po
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../lib
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DKEYWORDFILE=\"/usr/local/share/opendbx/keywords\"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -I/opt/local/include/postgresql83 -g -O2 -MT odbx_sql-completion.o -MD -MP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -MF .deps/odbx_sql-completion.Tpo -c -o odbx_sql-completion.o `test -f
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'completion.cpp' || echo './'`completion.cpp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mv -f .deps/odbx_sql-completion.Tpo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .deps/odbx_sql-completion.Po
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../lib
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DKEYWORDFILE=\"/usr/local/share/opendbx/keywords\"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -I/opt/local/include/postgresql83 -g -O2 -MT odbx_sql-odbx-sql.o -MD -MP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -MF .deps/odbx_sql-odbx-sql.Tpo -c -o odbx_sql-odbx-sql.o `test -f
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'odbx-sql.cpp' || echo './'`odbx-sql.cpp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> odbx-sql.cpp: In function 'int main(int, char**)':
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> odbx-sql.cpp:228: error: invalid conversion from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'char* (*)(const char*, int)' to 'int (*)(const char*, int)'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make[3]: *** [odbx_sql-odbx-sql.o] Error 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make: *** [all] Error 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know of any pre-built binaries that will work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on OSX?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know, but I would love to have them!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 23:09, Mariano Martinez Peck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:27 PM, John Toohey <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jt at parspro.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for looking into this for me. I'm just using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo as my app is using the beta of Seaside 3.0. I'm going to do as you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested and put some debug statements in PGConnection, and see where that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leads.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, let us know what the problem was if you find it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a lot of changes from me to switch to DBX on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Your application shouldn't have any changes. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application will use just Glorp. But in this case Glorp won't use the native
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PostgreSQL driver, but SqueakDBX with PostgreSQL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I assume there are no changes in my Glorp code, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what else do I need to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only thing you must do is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Install the PostgreSQL client library (if you don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have it already installed).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Compile or Install (if you are in Linux you can use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the .rpm or .deb) OpenDBX with PostgreSQL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can read how to do it here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6129
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You must do it only once. Once this is done,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything is easy and you can take advantage of all the SqueakDBX features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6106). OpenDBX works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect with PostgreSQL in Linux, Mac and Windows. We have also have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GlorpDBX working with SqueakDBX and PostgreSQL and it is very easy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6130 (where it says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GlorpDBX).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only limitation we have right now is that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't support large objects (blob, clob, etc) yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you try it and have any problem, please, let us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I develop on OSX and deploy to Linux for production.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 21:03, Mariano Martinez Peck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking if you have the problem in Squeak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also or just Pharo ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Mariano Martinez
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peck <marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:25 PM, John Toohey <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jt at parspro.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi John! This list is SqueakDBX related, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps I am not the best one to help you. I just make Glorp and PostgreSQL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> native driver to work on Pharo. Actually, the only thing I did is to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all green tests. No more than that. I don't have a Glorp + native postgresql
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver application. Anyway, I will try to help you ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My app frequently losses the connection the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Postgres, and throws a "Connection not Valid" exception. Unfortunately on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest Pharo images, there is a bug that causes this to write the stack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trace to disk, and then the image locks up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you meat there is a Pharo bug that when there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walkback and the stacktrace is written to disk, it freezes the image ? is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there a bug report of that ? Could you reproduce that ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the socket on the PGConnection class is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being closed or times out, and I need to know is there someway that I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debug this or if its a know issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that's probably the case. I can see in code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the error 'Connection not valid' when the connection is not connected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or if it is nil. If you see your stacktrace, you can see that the socket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable is nil. That's why the error. Now, the question is why the socket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is nil ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked for the code to see where can be the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socket set to nil, and I found some places: PGConnection stTerminalError:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> , stTerminated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you can put a "self halt" in those methods
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then debug them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The PGConnection seems to do a lot of "self log:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'XXXX'". So, perhaps you can have a Transcript opened to see that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, why don't you give a try to GlorpDBX +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBX ? It works pretty well and has good performance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope this helps. Remember I am not a native
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgresql driver guru. Perhaps you can ask also in squeak-dev or pharo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using the latest Pharo image, with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest Pharo-Glorp package, and the newest Postgres driver. I think this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the relevant part of the stack trace :-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGConnection(Object)>>error:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Receiver: a PGConnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aString: 'Connection not valid'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trace: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state: #Terminated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events: an OrderedCollection()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socket: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readBuffer: 'PblankT id ��name �$password
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �6client...etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readIndex: 384
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lastReadIndex: 384
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writeBuffer: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processId: 28132
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secretKey: 1795051851
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sql: 'SELECT t1.id, t1.name, t1.password,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t1.client, t1.role, t1.mobile, t1.ema...etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionCallOid: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionCallArgs: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copyStream: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result: a PGResult
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connectionArgs: a PGConnectionArgs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notificationSubscribers: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fieldConverters: an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IdentityDictionary(16->[closure] in PGConnection class>>boo...etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sqlStringConverter: [closure] in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGConnection>>clientEncoding:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receivingTextConverter: an UTF8TextConverter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGConnection>>execute:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Receiver: a PGConnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sqlString: 'SELECT t1.id, t1.typename,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t1.description, t1.selectioncount, t1.pr...etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trace: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state: #Terminated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events: an OrderedCollection()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socket: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readBuffer: 'PblankT id ��name �$password
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �6client...etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readIndex: 384
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lastReadIndex: 384
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writeBuffer: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processId: 28132
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secretKey: 1795051851
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sql: 'SELECT t1.id, t1.name, t1.password,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t1.client, t1.role, t1.mobile, t1.ema...etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionCallOid: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionCallArgs: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copyStream: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result: a PGResult
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connectionArgs: a PGConnectionArgs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notificationSubscribers: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fieldConverters: an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IdentityDictionary(16->[closure] in PGConnection class>>boo...etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sqlStringConverter: [closure] in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGConnection>>clientEncoding:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receivingTextConverter: an UTF8TextConverter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakDatabaseAccessor>>basicExecuteSQLString:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Receiver: a SqueakDatabaseAccessor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arguments and temporary variables:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aString: 'SELECT t1.id, t1.typename,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t1.description, t1.selectioncount, t1.prio...etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rowCollection: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Receiver's instance variables:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection: a PGConnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currentLogin: a Login(a PostgreSQLPlatform,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'postgres', '847129', 'localhost_ju...etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logging: true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reusePreparedStatements: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deniedCommands: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mutex: a Semaphore()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependents: nil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isInTransaction: false
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated, as this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopping me from going to a Beta test at the moment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -JT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBX mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBX at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -JT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -JT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -JT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -JT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBX mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBX at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -JT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBX mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBX at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -JT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBX mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBX at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> -JT
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> -JT
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBX mailing list
>>>>>>>>> SqueakDBX at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> -JT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> -JT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> SqueakDBX mailing list
>>>>> SqueakDBX at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> -JT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SqueakDBX mailing list
>>>> SqueakDBX at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> SqueakDBX at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -JT
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SqueakDBX mailing list
>> SqueakDBX at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx
>>
>>
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