From squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Wed Aug 1 14:53:17 2001 From: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org (John Bratby) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:53:17 +0100 Subject: [Squeakfoundation]FW: Help on 16r57 issue when printing Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C11A91.512730AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Sir/Madam, I work for a company called BiT Limited, we are a complete software solution company and we have designed a piece of software which runs using Smalltalk architecture. We have however run into some issues with regards to printing. I am however unable to resolve these issues and I am using yourself among others as a last point of contact with regards to this matter. The problem I am having is that we are due to release a new version of our software, but we cannot print models which contain Icons (bitmaps which when clicked on spark scripts which perform various tasks). This issue is however only apparent when you try to print from either Windows 95, Windows 98 or Windows ME to any printer either local or networked. The issue is not apparent on an NT or 2K O/S's. I am out of ideas so any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. I have registered for support with yourselves today but this matter is very urgent and I would appreciate your views greatly. Even if you can tell me which Dll's are affected in each OS when printing. A copy of the error message or the error.log file can be forwarded upon request. I look forward to hearing from you. Many thanks, John Bratby Business Integration Technologies Ltd. Rookery House Rookery Lane Stoke Bruerne NN12 7SJ United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)1604 864765 Fax: +44 (0)1604 864735 Registered No. 2654224, VAT No. GB-566066622 Email: john.bratby@enterprisemodeller.com www.enterprisemodeller.com This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Business Integration Technologies Limited except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Business Integration Technologies Limited. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C11A91.512730AC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear Sir/Madam,
 
I work for a company called BiT Limited, we are a complete software solution company and we have designed a piece of software which runs using Smalltalk architecture. We have however run into some issues with regards to printing. I am however unable to resolve these issues and I am using yourself among others as a last point of contact with regards to this matter.
 
The problem I am having is that we are due to release a new version of our software, but we cannot print models which contain Icons (bitmaps which when clicked on spark scripts which perform various tasks). This issue is however only apparent when you try to print from either Windows 95, Windows 98 or Windows ME to any printer either local or networked. The issue is not apparent on an NT or 2K O/S's.
 
I am out of ideas so any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. I have registered for support with yourselves today but this matter is very urgent and I would appreciate your views greatly. Even if you can tell me which Dll's are affected in each OS when printing.
 
A copy of the error message or the error.log file can be forwarded upon request.
 
I look forward to hearing from you.
 
 
Many thanks,
 
 

John Bratby

 

Business Integration Technologies Ltd.

Rookery House

Rookery Lane

Stoke Bruerne

NN12 7SJ

United Kingdom

Tel: +44 (0)1604 864765

Fax: +44 (0)1604 864735

Registered No. 2654224, VAT No. GB-566066622

Email: john.bratby@enterprisemodeller.com

www.enterprisemodeller.com

 

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C11A91.512730AC-- From squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Wed Aug 1 15:59:55 2001 From: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org (Doug Way) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:59:55 -0400 Subject: [Squeakfoundation]FW: Help on 16r57 issue when printing References: Message-ID: <3B68196B.D4AC784E@riskmetrics.com> Um, this list is for discussing organizational issues of the Squeak Foundation, not answering technical questions (especially non-Squeak ones). You'd probably have better luck asking your question on the comp.lang.smalltalk newsgroup. (Ah, I just saw that you did post on comp.lang.smalltalk, and you did get some partial answers to your VSE-related problem.) Anyway, based on your question, I'd suggest hiring someone who really knows VSE on a short-term/contract basis. - Doug Way dway@riskmetrics.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Squeakfoundation]FW: Help on 16r57 issue when printing Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:53:17 +0100 From: John Bratby Reply-To: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org To: "'squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org'" Dear Sir/Madam, I work for a company called BiT Limited, we are a complete software solution company and we have designed a piece of software which runs using Smalltalk architecture. We have however run into some issues with regards to printing. I am however unable to resolve these issues and I am using yourself among others as a last point of contact with regards to this matter. The problem I am having is that we are due to release a new version of our software, but we cannot print models which contain Icons (bitmaps which when clicked on spark scripts which perform various tasks). This issue is however only apparent when you try to print from either Windows 95, Windows 98 or Windows ME to any printer either local or networked. The issue is not apparent on an NT or 2K O/S's. I am out of ideas so any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. I have registered for support with yourselves today but this matter is very urgent and I would appreciate your views greatly. Even if you can tell me which Dll's are affected in each OS when printing. A copy of the error message or the error.log file can be forwarded upon request. I look forward to hearing from you. Many thanks, John Bratby Business Integration Technologies Ltd. Rookery House Rookery Lane Stoke Bruerne NN12 7SJ United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)1604 864765 Fax: +44 (0)1604 864735 Registered No. 2654224, VAT No. GB-566066622 Email: john.bratby@enterprisemodeller.com www.enterprisemodeller.com This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Business Integration Technologies Limited except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Business Integration Technologies Limited. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. From squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Thu Aug 2 09:55:13 2001 From: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org (John Bratby) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:55:13 +0100 Subject: [Squeakfoundation]FW: Help on 16r57 issue when printing Message-ID: Hi Doug, Thanks for the update - much appreciated. The problem I have is that the next version is going to be written in Delphi, and my MD is reluctant to shell out that sort of cash for an issue which will be resolved during the move to Delphi. Many thanks again. Regards, John -----Original Message----- From: Doug Way [mailto:dway@riskmetrics.com] Sent: 01 August 2001 16:00 To: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Squeakfoundation]FW: Help on 16r57 issue when printing Um, this list is for discussing organizational issues of the Squeak Foundation, not answering technical questions (especially non-Squeak ones). You'd probably have better luck asking your question on the comp.lang.smalltalk newsgroup. (Ah, I just saw that you did post on comp.lang.smalltalk, and you did get some partial answers to your VSE-related problem.) Anyway, based on your question, I'd suggest hiring someone who really knows VSE on a short-term/contract basis. - Doug Way dway@riskmetrics.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Squeakfoundation]FW: Help on 16r57 issue when printing Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:53:17 +0100 From: John Bratby Reply-To: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org To: "'squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org'" Dear Sir/Madam, I work for a company called BiT Limited, we are a complete software solution company and we have designed a piece of software which runs using Smalltalk architecture. We have however run into some issues with regards to printing. I am however unable to resolve these issues and I am using yourself among others as a last point of contact with regards to this matter. The problem I am having is that we are due to release a new version of our software, but we cannot print models which contain Icons (bitmaps which when clicked on spark scripts which perform various tasks). This issue is however only apparent when you try to print from either Windows 95, Windows 98 or Windows ME to any printer either local or networked. The issue is not apparent on an NT or 2K O/S's. I am out of ideas so any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. I have registered for support with yourselves today but this matter is very urgent and I would appreciate your views greatly. Even if you can tell me which Dll's are affected in each OS when printing. A copy of the error message or the error.log file can be forwarded upon request. I look forward to hearing from you. Many thanks, John Bratby Business Integration Technologies Ltd. Rookery House Rookery Lane Stoke Bruerne NN12 7SJ United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)1604 864765 Fax: +44 (0)1604 864735 Registered No. 2654224, VAT No. GB-566066622 Email: john.bratby@enterprisemodeller.com www.enterprisemodeller.com This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Business Integration Technologies Limited except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Business Integration Technologies Limited. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _______________________________________________ Squeakfoundation mailing list Squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. From squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Thu Aug 9 01:04:30 2001 From: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org (Timothy Reaves) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 20:04:30 -0400 Subject: [Squeakfoundation]XML UI Builder Message-ID: <20010808200430.204adb18.treaves@silverfields.com> Is this still an active project? Will it have a GUI builder, or must every GUI be hand written? If the later, where is the benefit? Thanks! From squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Fri Aug 10 21:01:23 2001 From: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org (squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 20:01:23 -0000 Subject: [Squeakfoundation]Active processes Message-ID: <9l1eij+ro1f@eGroups.com> I have code that sets up a process to work in the backround. However I get the feeling that when the program crashes it isn't ending its processes, so that when I re-init I get 2 identical processes. They step on each other's toes and everything goes to hell (At least I think thats whats happening ;). Is there a way to view all active processes and shut them down (Tried ProcessBrowser open, but ProcessBrowser was unknown). Better yet, is there a way to close all non-system processes, so that anything that I did gets killed and squeak keeps running? I'm not sure i'm going to be able to recognize whats a lost process and whats a system process... Thanks in advance, Kyle From squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Fri Aug 10 21:22:40 2001 From: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org (Doug Way) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:22:40 -0400 Subject: [Squeakfoundation]Active processes References: <9l1eij+ro1f@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3B74428F.A3372F76@riskmetrics.com> Henry.Bygott@Colorado.EDU wrote: > > I have code that sets up a process to work in the backround. However > I get the feeling that when the program crashes it isn't ending its > processes, so that when I re-init I get 2 identical processes. They > step on each other's toes and everything goes to hell (At least I > think thats whats happening ;). Is there a way to view all active > processes and shut them down (Tried ProcessBrowser open, but > ProcessBrowser was unknown). Better yet, is there a way to close all > non-system processes, so that anything that I did gets killed and > squeak keeps running? I'm not sure i'm going to be able to recognize > whats a lost process and whats a system process... Thanks in advance, > Kyle Actually, you should probably ask this question on the main Squeak (squeak-dev) list, not the SqueakFoundation list. The foundation list is for discussing foundation-related issues. But since I'm already replying... are you running an older version of Squeak? Squeak 3.0 (and 3.1alpha) both let me do "ProcessBrowser open" and it works. - Doug Way dway@riskmetrics.com From squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sat Aug 11 00:27:31 2001 From: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org (BYGOTT HENRY KYLE) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:27:31 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Squeakfoundation]Active processes In-Reply-To: <3B74428F.A3372F76@riskmetrics.com> Message-ID: I apoligize to all, I couldn't remember the correct email address and stumbled upon this one. On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Doug Way wrote: > > Henry.Bygott@Colorado.EDU wrote: > > > > I have code that sets up a process to work in the backround. However > > I get the feeling that when the program crashes it isn't ending its > > processes, so that when I re-init I get 2 identical processes. They > > step on each other's toes and everything goes to hell (At least I > > think thats whats happening ;). Is there a way to view all active > > processes and shut them down (Tried ProcessBrowser open, but > > ProcessBrowser was unknown). Better yet, is there a way to close all > > non-system processes, so that anything that I did gets killed and > > squeak keeps running? I'm not sure i'm going to be able to recognize > > whats a lost process and whats a system process... Thanks in advance, > > Kyle > > Actually, you should probably ask this question on the main Squeak (squeak-dev) list, not the SqueakFoundation list. The foundation list is for discussing foundation-related issues. > > But since I'm already replying... are you running an older version of Squeak? Squeak 3.0 (and 3.1alpha) both let me do "ProcessBrowser open" and it works. > > - Doug Way > dway@riskmetrics.com > > _______________________________________________ > Squeakfoundation mailing list > Squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation > From squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sat Aug 11 11:28:56 2001 From: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org (Henrik Gedenryd) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 12:28:56 +0200 Subject: [Squeakfoundation]Time to shut down separate SqF list? Message-ID: By now at least half of all traffic to the SqF list consists of posts that should really be on the main list, plus replies telling the poster so. I have asked, and most of the times this has been because the SqF address is what people found and therefore they used that. I think this hints us that there is little chance of avoiding 'misposts'. Also, we already noted that it's also impractical to have SqF discussion separated from the main list. Thirdly, the SqF traffic is very low. I therefore simply propose that we shut down the SqF list and in the future simply have SqF discussions over on the main list, with proper tags and topic names. Henrik From squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sat Aug 11 22:09:23 2001 From: squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org (Doug Way) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:09:23 -0400 Subject: [Squeakfoundation]Time to shut down separate SqF list? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200108112117.OAA19502@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Saturday, August 11, 2001, at 06:28 AM, Henrik Gedenryd wrote: > By now at least half of all traffic to the SqF list consists of posts > that > should really be on the main list, plus replies telling the poster so. > > I have asked, and most of the times this has been because the SqF > address is > what people found and therefore they used that. I think this hints us > that > there is little chance of avoiding 'misposts'. I just changed the link to the SqF mailing list from the SqF Swiki, and added some explanatory text, which hopefully might make these misposts less common. (I also cleaned up some of the Projects stuff while I was there.) > Also, we already noted that it's also impractical to have SqF discussion > separated from the main list. > > Thirdly, the SqF traffic is very low. > > I therefore simply propose that we shut down the SqF list and in the > future > simply have SqF discussions over on the main list, with proper tags and > topic names. I don't feel strongly about it, but I'd sort of prefer to keep the SqF list separate for now. Yes, the traffic has been low, probably for the reasons Tim mentioned. But I also feel that the SqF doesn't necessarily need to wait around for SqC to find a new home before it can do some useful stuff for the community. - Doug Way dway@riskmetrics.com