[Squeakfoundation]The Natives are Restless

[Dan Shafer]

One correction, Dan. If there's a token Old Fart around here, it's me. You have
longevity, my friend, but I have age all over you!

--- Paul McDonough <wnchips@home.com> wrote:
> Plato held that a benevolent dictatorship is the ideal form of
> government.  If you're up for it Dan, or Cees, etc., go for it, and
> count one 'foot soldier' ready to grab a rifle and listen to orders
> (subject to standard caveats about needing day jobs and not eating one's
> cats, etc., etc., of course ...).
> 
> In plainer language, this sounds like the best way to proceed right now.
>  I cede my democratic rights ;-)
> 
> Paul
> 
> Dan Ingalls wrote:
> > 
> > Folks -
> > 
> > Speaking as one who wants to see SqF take advantage of the community urge
> for a truly open Squeak, I have some concern for the pace of bringing SqF
> into existence.
> > 
> > What I see is the Stable Squeak experiment reaching completion in not much
> more time than we have spent deliberating over the definition of SqF, and a
> number of people who *would support* an SqF looking elsewhere for it when it
> is right under their nose.
> > 
> > Why?  Because we haven't yet declared the existence of SqF.
> > 
> > With no disrespect for the goals or even the process represented by the
> dialog on this list so far, what I'm wondering is:  Why wait for all the
> chaordic process and exact definitions to declare the existence of SqF?
> > 
> > Instead, why not
> > 
> >         Declare that SqF exists,
> > 
> >         Appoint a number of "acting" officers
> > 
> >         Declare a couple of active projects
> >                 one of which is to converge on a more formal
> >                 def of the organization
> > 
> >         I think I could even raise a few $$ to carry us through the interim
> period
> > 
> > As token "Old Fart"  I'm willing to be put in any role.  I'll even appoint
> myself and everybody else if no one wants to do this.  And I'll make up a
> project list (you can guess from prior messages).
> > 
> > That doesn't sound very democratic ("open"), but I'm just wanting to
> "jump-start" the organization so that it can be accreting respect and
> definition while it is still being born, and so that we can channel the open
> Squeak urges into a coherent future, rather than fighting fires on the Squeak
> mail list and dissipating energy in twenty splinter efforts.
> > 
> > What do others feel?
> > 
> >         - Dan
> > 
> > PS:
> > This may sound critical, but I don't feel that way at all.
> > I'm happy with the current participants and process.
> > I just feel the need for an interim solution.
> > 
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------- Dan Shafer, Author and Community Consultant
^. .^ | Commentator on Community, Web Building, Nanotech
 ='=  | Sr. Co-Editor, Online Community Report
      | Author, NanoTech, MegaQuake: Business Implications of
Squeak| Nanotechnology (Spring 2002), Wiley, ISBN 047120045X
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