[Squeakfoundation]The Natives are Restless

John Briggs squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Thu, 24 May 2001 22:18:51 +1000

On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:41:50PM -0400, Paul Fernhout wrote:
> Dan Ingalls wrote:
> > Instead, why not
> > 
> >         Declare that SqF exists,
> === purpose ===
> I won't stand in the way of forging ahead on the basis you outlined, but
> I suggest that since Cees is traveling we should at least wait for his
> input as well. 
> I think a lot of progress has been made by just having a statement of
> purpose. 
> I'm not sure this is the very latest, but from the Wiki:
> : To assist in the evolution of Squeak into its ultimate expression 
> : as an exquisite personal and collaborative
> : computing environment that is open, well supported, 
> : and freely available across the great majority of
> : modern platforms and operating systems.
> That is certainly a good start and perhaps it is enough to govern a
> small amount of funding (as a sort of iterative prototyping ideal). 
> At a minimum, I would suggest that if SqF is declared to exist, it be
> declared to exist for that purpose. And by default, I feel it should
> also be declared to exist with the latest version of the principles
> discussed here (in the thread by John Briggs). Or, at a bare minimum it
> should at least just go with the generic principles at: 
>   http://www.chaordic.org/what_princ.html
> === leadership ===
> I would also suggest that (no offense intended) we not expect SqueakC
> members to be in charge of SqueakF. This is in part because SqueakC has
> lots of other things to do, and in part because what's the point of just
> having a second SqueakC with the same exact strengths and weaknesses?
> (Liason or advisory roles is a different story, as would also be the
> situation for ex-SqueakC people.)
> As an alternative, I could live with Tim Rowledge as "dictator for
> life".

Paul as someone who is a stranger to all except via the squeak mailing lists
I second your idea for Tim Rowledge to be president of the SqF as he was the 
first to volunteer.

I also support Dan Ingalls to be liason with SqC.
We will also need liason with StSq.

Where would we be without Cees to give us all a prod and keep the ball rolling?

I do agree with Paul about us all being initially volunteers until we can 
determine what sort of support structures are necessary for us to function.

Like others have said SqueakF will benefit the whole Squeak community and will
enable us to see a greater acceptance of Squeak in the software industry as a

To benefit and propagate these ideals we must hasten slowly to ensure 
everything is done correctly because we will only have one chance to get it 
right once we leave the safe nvironment of the Squeak community.


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