[Squeakfoundation]Order of business ...

Stephane Ducasse squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:22:42 +0100


Hi daniel, Guides and Scott
>
> Three issues we should start moving on, IMO:
> 1. Process to take physical ownership of updates.
>  * Scott/SqC - do you have any remaining agenda for 3.4a/3.2.1, to
> settle before handing over the "keys"?
>  * Scott, are you interested in some role (as vaguely ;-) postulate=
d by
> goran, or otherwise) under the guidance (sic) of us Guides?

I hope Scott is willing to continue his work there. I think that ther=
e=20
is
a lot of space for people like him or Dan that knows the system so we=
ll.

Scott what is your view on that?

>  * If neither of the above, can you explain the current existing to=
ols
> in the image for handling this and the required resources, so we ca=
n
> plan a clean transition?
>
> I assume basically we'll need some public readable, Guides writeabl=
e
> storage space on updates.squeakfoundation.org, and a final update o=
n
> both all current servers and versions that changes the urls current=
ly=20
> in
> the image. Am I missing something?
>
> 2. Start planning the next release, in terms of content.
>  * I'll start a thread on the squeak-dev list to hear what people=
=20
> think.
> I'll also outline the process for posting refactorings as I sent to=
 you
> guys on the internal "Re: Fwd: Re: Image factoring" thread, and see=
=20
> what
> people think.
>  * Doug, we need to know what's currently on the table of the forme=
r
> Harvesters group, so we can decide what to integrate, what to rejec=
t,
> and what to punt to the list and SM.
>  * If you guys have directions you want the image to take in the ne=
ar
> term beyond what I summarized as "removing constraints", like a mer=
ge
> plan to VI4, or whatever, I think now would be a good time to menti=
on
> it.
>  * After we get some inputs from all these sources, I suggest we ha=
sh
> out a basic release road map. As an initial sketch of it's shape (w=
e'll
> have actual content later) -
>  3.4 - a quicky release to remove some constraints and test our pro=
cess
> for refactoring and removing a few obvious applications from Squeak=
.
>  3.5 - a slightly longer release to optimize and continue the proce=
ss,
> stabilize our work tools.
>  4.0 - New image format...
>
> 3. VI4/Jitter. Tim, you've mentioned a few times on the list that s=
ome
> VI4 changes may be incompatible with J5. I'm getting those=20
> too-familiar,
> unpleasent "we're not communicating and may be heading for some bad
> feelings" vibes. Could you, Ian, and Anthony talk business, hash it=
 out
> and give us some nice bright future for this? I think the transitio=
n to
> VI4 will still need quite a bit of work, and J5 compatibility is th=
e
> major risk I see, it would be nice to know what we're doing about i=
t.
>
> Daniel
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http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/
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  different? ... especially if, by doing something different, today
  might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes