[Squeakfoundation]How to proceed for the kernel cleaning harvesting

Doug Way dway at riskmetrics.com
Wed Apr 9 02:21:38 CEST 2003

Okay, this sounds like a pretty good process.

I guess Daniel is sort of promising to look at these bundles of 
changesets from the KCP as they come in?  If we want to have a 
reasonably quick turnaround for these changes, it probably is good to 
have one harvester that promises to review them, so that they aren't 
ignored accidentally.

On the other hand, if someone like Noury is already externally 
reviewing these and adding comments, then perhaps it would be 
sufficient for Daniel or anyone to "rubber stamp" these as approved 
without looking too hard at them.  (It would need to be clear from the 
comments that they were really externally reviewed, of course.)  But if 
Daniel is able to review them himself, that is ideal.

These will still follow the usual harvesting process steps which I 
posted about yesterday at http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3152 .

For example, I see that Daniel has already [approved] one item 
(rmSubclassModule).  According to the process, this will sit around for 
at least 3 days to see if anyone objects to it, and if no one does, it 
will go into the update stream.

Hopefully this process will be fast enough for what Stephane has in 

(I see that the Morphic Cleanup Project (MCP) folks are now submitting 
changesets.  Ideally, it might be good to have an "interested 
harvester" devoted to looking at those, too...)

- Doug

On Sunday, April 6, 2003, at 07:16 PM, Daniel Vainsencher wrote:

> Ok, now we're talking.
> Send in a mail with changesets 9,7,4, and I'll approve them, I've
> already seen that part. The others until 10 are either tests (which no
> longer go into the image, since we'll be removing SUnit into a 
> package),
> or your internal tools, or already in the image.
> When you've reviewed another bunch, let me know which.
> Daniel
> Stephane Ducasse <ducasse at iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
>> Ok so let us know. I think that making a try  on the current changes
>> could help to tighten the process and see if we can work this way.
>> What I suggest is the following (depending on the availability of
>> Noury's and Roel's time there is a deadline for ESUG for the end of 
>> the
>> week)
>> 1. we proceed to an internal/external review as soon as possible.
>> 2. we let you know.
>> 3. you try to assess the changes as fast as you can and report how we
>> can improve communication.
>> 4. If in the meantime you/harvesters evaluate the proposed changes
>> which are simple (the only design point is that we introduced a new
>> class for the navigation and UI related actions that the tools can
>> reuse), and accept them we just pass to the next ones.
>> Stef
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