[Squeakfoundation]Just let me know if I lose my time and yours

[Stephane Ducasse]

On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 11:47 AM, goran.krampe at bluefish.se wrote:

> Hi Stephane, Andreas and all!
>
> Instead of quoting a lot of text etc I try to keep it to the point:
>
> - Keep on cleaning Stephane! Sure, sometimes people will disagree with
> selected proposed actions - but we are *all* grateful for the work 
> being
> done, including Andreas I am sure. So please, don't be discouraged. The
> progress so far is great.
> - Regarding these "hard to place methods", placing #abandonSources in
> Image does sound perfectly reasonable to me... And I would also expect
> to find the #snapshot:andQuit: family of methods there (even though I
> don't really like the names of those...).

this is there (in the next KCP I will try to produce).

> - Regarding the rest of these methods, there may be methods that really
> are hard to place - and in that case I agree that a Utilities class can
> be good to have, BUT:
> 	- Placing them all in one class may need the use of class extensions 
> so
> that it doesn't "hurt" the partitioning of the image. If we put a
> utility method for Morphic and a utility method for files in the same
> class called Utilities then we will create problems for minimal images
> without Morpic - unless we use class extensions.
> 	- Having utility methods in class SystemDictionary seems utterly wrong
> to me. Just listen to the name - SystemDictionary. What on earth tells
> the novice that this is a place for Utility methods? Nothing IMHO. It 
> is
> also confusing for the novice that the methods are in 
> "SystemDictionary"
> but you run them by sending messages to "Smalltalk"... But the class
> name Utilities or even UtilityMethods with the methods on the class 
> side
> is much better I think. If we indeed are talking about functions then I
> think it is appropriate for them to be on the class side.

Ok thanks for the feedback I was tired and pissed of yesterday (really).

Stef

>
> Just my 2... öre. (at least until we join the EMU)
>
> regards, Göran
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