[Squeakfoundation]Debian-legal on squeak

Daniel Vainsencher danielv at netvision.net.il
Fri Mar 28 03:43:23 CET 2003

I didn't intend to request re-discussion of every single problem again -
I think some have clear solutions. For example, the export clause, which
is non-free, IIUC, by applying to non-US people a law that generally
doesn't apply to them, can be converted into something like "comply with
the law", which is probably silly, but also not prejudicial.

Actually, I missed the objection to the indemnfication clause there,
because I couldn't find the precise mail in which the objection was
raised (though I've seen it sometime today).

Anyway, that's a shopping list we need to find solutions to/be certain
enough they aren't serious (for example, the language complaint is not


Tim Rowledge <tim at sumeru.stanford.edu> wrote:
> > ********************
> > 6. Export Law Assurances. You may not use or otherwise export or
> >    reexport the Apple Software except as authorized by United States law
> >    and the laws of the jurisdiction in which the Apple Software was
> >    obtained.
> > 
> > Doesn`t this alone makes it non-free? I think we have discussed it
> > several times what it means when licenses explicite referes to some
> > laws which "isn`t DFSG-free". I think that it makes the license
> > non-free, but I don`t remember what we have agreed on.
> > ********************
> >
> To the best of my understanding this is implicit no matter what you put
> in your license. Federal law stands whether you mention it or not. If
> the existence of this condition makes something non-free then there's a
> lot of software that is non-free; for example rather a lot of Gnu code
> that was written in the US.
> http://www.eff.org/CAF/law/software-export-law has lots of stuff that
> seems related including specific mention of software with encryption
> capabilities; Squeak may well count (DESPlugin, MD5Plugin etc).
> -- 
> Tim Rowledge, tim at sumeru.stanford.edu, http://sumeru.stanford.edu/tim
> Strange OpCodes: BW: Branch on Whim
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