[Squeakland] Logo vs. Squeak

diegogomezdeck at consultar.com diegogomezdeck at consultar.com
Fri Aug 8 10:04:25 PDT 2003

Sounds really great!

About your statement: "I really feel in over my head with Squeak because
there's just not much documentation...."

In Small-Land we're working hard to create documentation.  If you can read
Spanish visit our Swiki (http://swiki.agro.uba.ar/small_land).  The
documentation is NOT finished, but we have produced a lot in a short period.



> I am determined to figure this out.  I'm new to both Logo and Squeak
> and thought I'd be a perfect guinea pig to start out with both.  Almost
> an action research project with 2 of my sections of 7th graders this
> year. I really feel in over my head with Squeak because there's just
> not much documentation....but if you really think about it, kids never
> read documentation.  It's only us old foggies that need the
> documentation!!!!!
> I'm scared to step off the dock and plunge in.  But what the heck.  It
> can't be a bad thing even if we can't do anything.  It's the process I
> keep telling myself and enjoying the journey.  I'm definitely going to
> include a reflective element in this grand experiment, though.  I'm
> setting up blogs for all my kids to talk about what they're
> experiencing, their frustrations, their victories and hopefully adding
> in that critique piece unique to the blogging world.  It should also
> help me collect valuable student work/thinking as evidence to examine
> for if it's worth it or not.
> marsha
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diegogomezdeck at consultar.com
> [mailto:diegogomezdeck at consultar.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:02 AM
> To: squeakland at squeakland.org
> Subject: [Squeakland] Logo vs. Squeak
> Hi guys...
> Preparing the content in Spanish for Small-Land I found one question
> I'm not able to respond.
>   "Why use Squeak instead of Logo?"
> I know almost nothing about Logo, but from my (limited) point of view I
> think the key difference is the Object Orientation.
> The Object paradigm is, imho, a better way to describe the reality than
> the "Structured way" used by Logo.  Also I can find some roots in some
> "knowledge representation" theories (the pair object-subject).
> The "dark" point with my thought is I'm not able to see if this
> argument is valid for teachers/educators.
> I'd like to hear your opinions.
> Diego Gomez Deck
> http://www.small-land.org
> PS: Anyone knows the Papert's feeling about Squeak? I guess it's good
> (based on the Squeaker movie :))

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