[Squeakland] A somewhat silly suggestion for Andreas

[Mankovsky, Sheine]

I understood that you were throwing something out for consideration.  Sheine


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	John Voiklis [SMTP:voiklis at redfigure.org]
> Sent:	Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:28 PM
> To:	Andreas Raab; squeakland at squeakland.org
> Subject:	RE: [Squeakland] A somewhat silly suggestion for Andreas
> 
> The run yielded nothing; oh well.
> 
> I only brought the whole thing up because, from what I have heard of
> Tweak,
> it is a new way of doing things. I feel we need a new vocabulary to make
> sure it is recognized as such; otherwise we may find that we spend most of
> our time explaining how and why this differs from other object-oriented
> and/or prototype languages.
> 
> Anyway, I am being too serious, all of the sudden. I simply wanted to
> throw
> an idea into the mix; in the same way that you, Andreas, have said that
> the
> syntax of a programming environment is part of its UI, I believe the words
> we use to describe the environment inevitably shape the environment and
> how
> we work there.
> 
> Again, I need to lighten up. It's best I get back to the docs that I
> promised to post.
> 
> --J
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Raab [mailto:andreas.raab at squeakland.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:41 PM
> To: 'John Voiklis'; squeakland at squeakland.org
> Subject: RE: [Squeakland] A somewhat silly suggestion for Andreas
> 
> 
> Hi John and all,
> 
> Thanks for all these ideas. I guess with the "pragma" idea then Tweak
> should
> be called the "Pragmatist" with the "idea" the "Idealist" (or are those
> the
> users of the system??? hm... ;-)
> 
> Well, I guess I'll wait until you're back from the seven mile run and see
> what your feelings are then ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
>   - Andreas
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: squeakland-bounces at squeakland.org
> > [mailto:squeakland-bounces at squeakland.org] On Behalf Of John Voiklis
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:16 PM
> > To: squeakland at squeakland.org
> > Subject: RE: [Squeakland] A somewhat silly suggestion for Andreas
> >
> >
> > > Why not call a Tweak object an "Idea"? This would be even
> > more Greek,
> > > and more appropriate.
> >
> > I like it; I'll try a seven mile run and mull it over. In the
> > end though it isn't my call; still, whatever it is, I would
> > love to help in developing the theory and practice.
> >
> > > Could we call it Idealistic Programming?
> >
> > On the one hand, I like the half-kidding optimism, one the
> > other such a term has a progandistic tinge. Maybe one could
> > start with the spirit of Alan's term, Idea Processing, and
> > come up with a clever yet self-evidently appropriate turn of phrase.
> >
> > Again, it is not up to me, but I look forward to the
> > intellectual work to come.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > J
> >
> >
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