[Squeakland] RE: Squeakland Forum?

Steve Gutierrez sjg2001 at mac.com
Wed Jan 28 17:19:23 PST 2004 

I too am in agreement for a Squeakland Forum for educators and other  
learning Squeak.   I recall the SqueakPeople site at  
http://people.squeakfoundation.org/  Its been awhile since I've had a  
look at the site. I signed up for account but was a bit overwhelmed,  
not quite my level.  I wonder if an area here would work for our needs?  
  Any thoughts?

On Jan 28, 2004, at 12:00 PM, squeakland-request at squeakland.org wrote:

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> From: Phil Firsenbaum <tacmanphil at mac.com>
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> I heartily agree with François regarding the need for a good
> interactive forum to support those of us who are still learning our way
> around Squeak eToys and constantly encounter new challenge.
> François mentioned phpBB, which I learned is open source and free...2
> attractive features.
> I found vBulletin, which looks to be widely used.
> For those interested, take a look at vBulletin's forum site
> http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/
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> Finally, what will it take to get a forum started?
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> On Jan 27, 2004, at 3:00 PM, squeakland-request at squeakland.org wrote:
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>>    1. 	Re: 3 questions : trailStyle, falling balls pictures, forums
>>       ? (francois schnell)
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>> From: francois schnell <francois.schnell at free.fr>
>> Date: January 26, 2004 5:36:13 PM EST
>> To: Michael Rueger <michael at squeakland.org>, squeakland at squeakland.org
>> Subject: [Squeakland]	Re: 3 questions : trailStyle, falling balls
>> pictures, forums ?
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>>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> * Thank you for the full set of pictures !
>>
>> * Concerning good programming community sites I used mainly 2 sites
>> for VB and Flash programming  in French ... ;-)
>> (http://www.flashxpress.net/ and http://www.codes-sources.com/). They
>> are not very good sites but they have very active ... Forums ...
>>
>> They were priceless to me when I decided 2 years ago to learn (Flash /
>> Action Script) .I wanted to design and program scientific simulations
>> for kids which are running in the Planetarium I worked for.
>> I would say I learned Flash : 20 % books, 80 % forums.
>> Each time I was really stuck I  searched in the Forums and very often
>> somone else had the same question.
>> There are many advantages to have a forum :
>> - Different themes (maybe newbies to squeak, teachers projects, E-tyos
>> programming, Squeak programming,...) - It's good for newbies who often
>> hesitate to ask "stupid" questions in a mailing list.
>> - You've got a good visisibility of  "hot subjects" or somone lost
>> without  an answer.
>> - etc.
>>
>> I like to imagine a "big impact community site"as an emergent system
>> like an anthill  for example.
>> A anthill  is very organised and efficient  (nursery, cimetery, etc.)
>> but there are no individual architect or lead programmer.
>> It organise and strenghten  itselft thanks to the quality of the
>> "communication" beetwen ants (the pheromons) and if the critical mass
>> is reached (I believe a few thousands for an Anthill).
>>
>> Even if I'm still quite a newbie to Squeak (not for long hopefully),
>> the more I look at it and the more I see an *Astronomical* multiple
>> potential in it.
>>
>> I think Alan Kay and all the fellows squeak and squeakland teams have
>> done a tremendous job.
>> There are exotic fruits and  succelent juicy food there I never saw
>> eleswhere, nevertheless  to reach "the critical mass" we need  the
>> best pheromones and I think a real  Forum is a part of it.
>>
>>
>> PS :  I actually never installed a forum . Maybe something like phpBB
>> could be good (and you can skin it with the Squeak feel and look).
>> I'm ready to investigate ...
>>
>> PS :  If Forum there is, I solely here promess to help squeakers  on
>> it.  :-)
>>
>>
>> François  Schnell
>> Strasbourg
>> France
>> http://francois.schnell.free.fr/
>>
>>
>> Michael Rueger wrote:
>>
>>> francois schnell wrote:
>>>
>>>> -Project 10 « Falling balls » looks really good, unfortunatelly I
>>>> don't have a camcorder. Would it be possible to have the pictures of
>>>> the falling ball to do the project 10. I promess I 'll buy a
>>>> camcorder « soon » to do the « real » experiment ...
>>>
>>>
>>> The pictures are now available at
>>> http:www.squeakland.org/~michael/ball-drop.zip
>>>
>>>
>>>> * Is there a way to search in the archive of the mailinglist ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately not. Although a general google search should cover most
>>> of it too.
>>>
>>>> Do you plan to open Forums in the future ? I'm convincing their're
>>>> important to initiate a wide community learning from each others
>>>> questions and experiences.
>>>
>>>
>>> The mailing list is intended to be the forum to communicate.
>>> We are thinking about other forms of communication, do you (or
>>> otheres on this list) have examples of good, working community sites?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
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