[Squeakland] Re: Publishing Squeak Projects to Server
Steve Gutierrez
sjg2001 at mac.com
Thu Jan 29 21:09:43 PST 2004
David,
I am a Tech Coordinator at a K-5 elementary school and we've begun
using a Swiki to publish Squeak projects. I run a Swiki on our Xserv
but originally served it on a DV iMac running OS9. Students upload and
then reference their files on the Swiki. Its a great way for students
to collaborate and see what others are working on.
You can download the Swiki files here
http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/swiki/15
and learn all about the Swiki here http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/swiki
Squeak On
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> 1. saving squeak projects (David Wells)
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> 3. Re: Forums for Squeak (Michael Rueger)
> 4. Re: Forums for Squeak (Michael Rueger)
> 5. RE: Squeakland Forum? (Steve Gutierrez)
> 6. Re: Forums for Squeak (Sean McGrath)
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> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:33:51 -0600
> From: David Wells <dwells at wildwood.cps.k12.il.us>
> Subject: [Squeakland] saving squeak projects
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> Hi all -
>
> I'm the technology teacher at a small (ca 350 kids) K-8 elementary
> school in Chicago, and am just starting to excitedly experiment with
> Squeak with a couple of classes that I teach.
>
> We've got a lab of 18 iMacs (running OS9), all connected to a central
> Apple G4 that we use as a server. All of our kids have individual
> password protected access to a folder of their own on the server. In
> addition, we're running a protection program (FoolProof) to keep kids
> from messing around with the hard drive, etc.
>
> My question: Is there an easy way to have kids publish their projects
> to our server? Right now, they're just publishing them to the "My
> Squeak" folder on their individual machines, but I can see this
> becoming problematic quite soon. I've come into teaching computers
> through the back door (having taught art and been a classroom teacher,
> worked in museums, done a bit of graphic design, etc.), so I am an
> utter Newbie (note the capital 'N') with most things technical.
>
> thanks for your help!
>
> David Wells
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:47:38 -0800
> From: "Rudy Scott" <rudy at rudyscott.com>
> Subject: [Squeakland] Forums for Squeak
> To: <squeakland at squeakland.org>
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> Greetings,
>
> I'd volunteer use of my hosting space for a squeak forum so long as
> the bandwidth usage doesn't get too high. I don't have any particular
> expertise in Squeak but, I'd be happy to contribute a place for those
> who do to answer questions on the subject.
>
> I've setup a sample phpBB board on my website.
> http://rudyscott.com/squeak/
> If people are interested in using this space, I'm happy to provide it
> (no warranties :-).
>
> If squeakland sets up an official phpBB forum I'd be happy to export
> the db contents over to the new location.
>
> --Rudy
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> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:06:28 +0900
> From: Michael Rueger <michael at squeakland.org>
> Subject: Re: [Squeakland] Forums for Squeak
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> Hi all,
>
> it seems like the idea of using a forum produced quite a bit of
> excitement :-)
> Please hold your horses for a little while and let us take the
> technical
> discussion offline.
> I would like to take a closer look at the proposed solutions and then
> integrate the most promising one into our squeakland site.
>
> *Please* do not create etoy/squeakland forums outside of this site,
> let's coordinate the efforts first!
>
> I'm traveling right now and won't have time to look into this before
> early next week but I will be on email.
>
> Thank you for all your input and help!
>
> Michael
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> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:09:14 +0900
> From: Michael Rueger <michael at squeakland.org>
> Subject: Re: [Squeakland] Forums for Squeak
> To: squeakland at squeakland.org
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> Frank Caggiano wrote:
>
>> If what is wanted is a place to post questions, get answers and
>> discuss
>> squeak (the plugin version) in the educational setting then I thought
>> that was what this list was for. If your looking to get more
>> technical
>> information about squeak there is the squeak-dev list. What would be
>> the
>> purpose of new list?
>
> It is not about a new list, but a different way to communicate. So in
> addition or as a replacement for the mailing list we consider using web
> forums. It seems that quite a few people prefer forums over mailling
> lists for a variety of reasons. If that would actually help getting a
> more lively discussion going on all things related to etoys and
> education, I think it is worth a try.
>
> Michael
>
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> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:19:23 -0800
> From: Steve Gutierrez <sjg2001 at mac.com>
> Subject: [Squeakland] RE: Squeakland Forum?
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> I too am in agreement for a Squeakland Forum for educators and other
> learning Squeak. I recall the SqueakPeople site at
> http://people.squeakfoundation.org/ Its been awhile since I've had a
> look at the site. I signed up for account but was a bit overwhelmed,
> not quite my level. I wonder if an area here would work for our needs?
> Any thoughts?
>
> On Jan 28, 2004, at 12:00 PM, squeakland-request at squeakland.org wrote:
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>> 1. Re: Squeakland Forum? (Phil Firsenbaum)
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>> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:25:11 -0500
>> From: Phil Firsenbaum <tacmanphil at mac.com>
>> Subject: [Squeakland] Re: Squeakland Forum?
>> To: squeakland at squeakland.org
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>> I heartily agree with François regarding the need for a good
>> interactive forum to support those of us who are still learning our
>> way
>> around Squeak eToys and constantly encounter new challenge.
>> François mentioned phpBB, which I learned is open source and free...2
>> attractive features.
>> I found vBulletin, which looks to be widely used.
>> For those interested, take a look at vBulletin's forum site
>> http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/
>>
>> Finally, what will it take to get a forum started?
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2004, at 3:00 PM, squeakland-request at squeakland.org wrote:
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>>> 1. Re: 3 questions : trailStyle, falling balls pictures, forums
>>> ? (francois schnell)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: francois schnell <francois.schnell at free.fr>
>>> Date: January 26, 2004 5:36:13 PM EST
>>> To: Michael Rueger <michael at squeakland.org>,
>>> squeakland at squeakland.org
>>> Subject: [Squeakland] Re: 3 questions : trailStyle, falling balls
>>> pictures, forums ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bonjour,
>>>
>>> * Thank you for the full set of pictures !
>>>
>>> * Concerning good programming community sites I used mainly 2 sites
>>> for VB and Flash programming in French ... ;-)
>>> (http://www.flashxpress.net/ and http://www.codes-sources.com/). They
>>> are not very good sites but they have very active ... Forums ...
>>>
>>> They were priceless to me when I decided 2 years ago to learn (Flash
>>> /
>>> Action Script) .I wanted to design and program scientific simulations
>>> for kids which are running in the Planetarium I worked for.
>>> I would say I learned Flash : 20 % books, 80 % forums.
>>> Each time I was really stuck I searched in the Forums and very often
>>> somone else had the same question.
>>> There are many advantages to have a forum :
>>> - Different themes (maybe newbies to squeak, teachers projects,
>>> E-tyos
>>> programming, Squeak programming,...) - It's good for newbies who
>>> often
>>> hesitate to ask "stupid" questions in a mailing list.
>>> - You've got a good visisibility of "hot subjects" or somone lost
>>> without an answer.
>>> - etc.
>>>
>>> I like to imagine a "big impact community site"as an emergent system
>>> like an anthill for example.
>>> A anthill is very organised and efficient (nursery, cimetery, etc.)
>>> but there are no individual architect or lead programmer.
>>> It organise and strenghten itselft thanks to the quality of the
>>> "communication" beetwen ants (the pheromons) and if the critical mass
>>> is reached (I believe a few thousands for an Anthill).
>>>
>>> Even if I'm still quite a newbie to Squeak (not for long hopefully),
>>> the more I look at it and the more I see an *Astronomical* multiple
>>> potential in it.
>>>
>>> I think Alan Kay and all the fellows squeak and squeakland teams have
>>> done a tremendous job.
>>> There are exotic fruits and succelent juicy food there I never saw
>>> eleswhere, nevertheless to reach "the critical mass" we need the
>>> best pheromones and I think a real Forum is a part of it.
>>>
>>>
>>> PS : I actually never installed a forum . Maybe something like phpBB
>>> could be good (and you can skin it with the Squeak feel and look).
>>> I'm ready to investigate ...
>>>
>>> PS : If Forum there is, I solely here promess to help squeakers on
>>> it. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> François Schnell
>>> Strasbourg
>>> France
>>> http://francois.schnell.free.fr/
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Rueger wrote:
>>>
>>>> francois schnell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -Project 10 « Falling balls » looks really good, unfortunatelly I
>>>>> don't have a camcorder. Would it be possible to have the pictures
>>>>> of
>>>>> the falling ball to do the project 10. I promess I 'll buy a
>>>>> camcorder « soon » to do the « real » experiment ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The pictures are now available at
>>>> http:www.squeakland.org/~michael/ball-drop.zip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> * Is there a way to search in the archive of the mailinglist ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately not. Although a general google search should cover
>>>> most
>>>> of it too.
>>>>
>>>>> Do you plan to open Forums in the future ? I'm convincing their're
>>>>> important to initiate a wide community learning from each others
>>>>> questions and experiences.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The mailing list is intended to be the forum to communicate.
>>>> We are thinking about other forms of communication, do you (or
>>>> otheres on this list) have examples of good, working community
>>>> sites?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:11:30 -0800 (PST)
> From: Sean McGrath <sean at manybits.net>
> Subject: Re: [Squeakland] Forums for Squeak
> To: Michael Rueger <michael at squeakland.org>
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> As one that strongly prefers a mailing list, I hope a a forum with both
> web and email interfaces is implemented.
>
> --
> Sean McGrath
> sean at manybits.net
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> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Michael Rueger wrote:
>
>> Frank Caggiano wrote:
>>
>>> If what is wanted is a place to post questions, get answers and
>>> discuss
>>> squeak (the plugin version) in the educational setting then I thought
>>> that was what this list was for. If your looking to get more
>>> technical
>>> information about squeak there is the squeak-dev list. What would be
>>> the
>>> purpose of new list?
>>
>> It is not about a new list, but a different way to communicate. So in
>> addition or as a replacement for the mailing list we consider using
>> web
>> forums. It seems that quite a few people prefer forums over mailling
>> lists for a variety of reasons. If that would actually help getting a
>> more lively discussion going on all things related to etoys and
>> education, I think it is worth a try.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
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