[Squeakland] NetMorph; squeakland vs. squeak

Randy Heiland heiland at indiana.edu
Fri Aug 26 09:35:51 PDT 2005


Hi Squeakers,

As events from Squeakfest continue to bubble in my brain and outreach
opportunities present themselves, I've been wondering lately about the
NetMorph demo.  I think this sort of functionality, i.e., distributed
objects in Squeak, would be great fun and could lead to some terrific
educational projects.  So, my first question is - exactly how steep is the
barrier to getting it working in the Squeakland version of Squeak (since it
was pointed out that it required the "full" Squeak version).

(Warning: probably leaving the intended range of topics for this list)
This got me to wonder, more generally, about the differences in "full"
Squeak (at squeak.org) vs. Squeakland Squeak and, for that matter, full
Squeak vs. Tweak (or whatever it may eventually be called).  For starters,
there's the question of the sizes (disk and memory) of these different
animals.  A quick glance at the size of the image from Squeakland05 is ~17M.
After downloading Squeak 3.8, I see its image is ~18M, but there's also a
14M "changes" file which, I'm assuming is required to run the image?
Running the Squeakland05 app, I see it uses about 28M of memory.  The Squeak
3.8 app uses about the same.

I guess buried in my ramblings is my concern for yet another open source
software community to be split.  My desire to have the NetMorph
functionality, but wanting to stay with the more kid-friendly Squeakland
version of Squeak, is just one semi-frustrating example.

--Randy



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