[Squeakland] Help for getting BotsInc on ODLP

stéphane ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Mon Apr 23 08:38:40 PDT 2007


> Hi Stéphane,
>
> What you're telling is music to my ears. I have been advocating  
> something like this in the eToys OLPC mailing list and in this way  
> to have a laptop which grows with the kids, starting with eToys,  
> passing to Bots Inc and going to Smalltalk after that. This is the  
> way that me and my students of first semester are using and is  
> working very nice.

Excellent news

> At this moment we're going to start to use Monticello for some  
> collective project, and would be nice to know how to open  
> Monticello and use from Bots Inc, or use Bot Inc from some image.
>
> I have been trying to load Bots Inc on Squeakland 3.8-05 #552 but I  
> can't get Monticello working on it (I get the errors in the  
> attached files).

I know that my code load easily on squeak-38-full but I do not have  
squeakland 38-05. Where can I find it?

>
> Here are some links of the work with my students:
>
> http://www.eduwiki.info/BotsInc
> http://www.eduwiki.info/MazeSquad/construirPuente/Historial
> http://www.eduwiki.info/MazeSquad2/ConstruccionLaberinto
> http://www.eduwiki.info/CarlosJaramillo/Botsinc/Cap23
>
> Is nice to hear that some chapters of the book will be free.

This was always my intention. The problem is that my english is not  
good enough so I had to go with an editor to
get a real copy edit phase. Now you can buy an electronic copy of the  
book it is cheaper and I guess that you can share it :)

> Using your book here is a real help, but most of students can't pay  
> for it, and having just a copy for the all group is really  
> uncomfortable (we're an small group of 10 and I have ask it to the  
> Mathematics Department but we're out of budget for this semester).  
> A creative commons license with free distribution and the  
> possibility to create derived works like translations would be  
> really nice.

For the new material everything will be free CC license.

>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Offray
>
> stéphane ducasse escribió:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I was discussing with Bert about getting botsinc running on ODLP.  
>> The  environment is really small
>> it is 17 classes. And this would be great to have an environment  
>> to  teach Smalltalk on it. Apparently Bert told me that Alan
>> would be interested and that I should send an email to this  
>> mailing- list. So this is what I'm doing.
>>
>> Now I need help. I have a bug when I put a self halt in the  
>> method  that is executed. Ned told me that
>> it could be easily fixed but right now I have no time and I got   
>> already burnt in the pas with concurrency and morphic.
>> So I would like to know if somebody is interested in helping me.
>>
>> square
>> 	"self square"
>> 	self north.
>> 	self go: 200.
>> 	self halt.
>> 	self east.
>> 	self go: 200.
>>
>> Does not stop the bot and its animation. (I have an older version  
>> not  based on the rewrite that Ned did for me
>> but based on morphic wrapper that is working correctly but I  
>> would  prefer to use the last one since I developed further and
>> it is in sync with the book).
>>
>> I was working on a better history of commands. Now there is also  
>> a  problem of how to save script.
>> I proposed to save categories but may be we need something better   
>> than that.
>>
>> I'm working on releasing extra chapters (with Lsystem and other).
>> I'm working also on releasing another micro world with a robot   
>> (looking like Karel with really fun exercises).
>> These extras chapters will be freely available. But all that takes  
>> time.
>>
>> On a 3.8 image
>>
>> On SqueakMap load shout.4 (this is not necessary and we can remove  
>> it  after, it just gives a better feedback on errors).
>>
>> MCHttpRepository
>>      location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/BotIncPica'
>>      user: ''
>>      password: ''
>>
>> BotIncPica-Ned-sd.44.mcz
>>
>> Under help -> reinstall full menu
>>
>>
>> Stef
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