[squeakland] Re: RES: [etoys-dev] popups in project-info

Timothy Falconer timothy at squeakland.org
Mon Aug 31 12:38:13 EDT 2009


Can someone find something on the web that compares what we call  
"elementary, middle, and high school" . . . ideally we could come up  
with three categories that fit the world.

Btw, my experiences in Haiti and Nicaragua suggest that ages are better.

We could go with "piaget time", not "typically done in school" time.   
Variations are incredible ... for example, Haiti vs US homeschoolers.

If there was an international standard grouping we could point to,  
that would be best.


On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Marta Voelcker wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think that there are too many categories.
>
> If we think on content we could group by school years:
>
>
> Elementary school
> Middle school
> High school
>
> Or, if  grouping by age I wouldn't use more than  three categories,  
> in this
> case I would say:
>
> 7 and younger
> 8 to 12
> 13 and older -  when "technically" most kids are able to go through   
> more
> complex abstractions
>
> marta
>
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: etoys-dev-bounces at squeakland.org
> [mailto:etoys-dev-bounces at squeakland.org] Em nome de Timothy Falconer
> Enviada em: segunda-feira, 31 de agosto de 2009 12:41
> Para: kharness at illinois.edu
> Cc: etoys dev
> Assunto: Re: [etoys-dev] popups in project-info
>
> Kathleen,
>
> The problem will be hundreds of people choosing age/grade tags.  Some
> will say "4th grade", others will say "3rd to 4th", others will say
> "fourth grade", others will say "9 to 10", etc.  Using fixed
> categories solves this problem.
>
> If I saw a drop-down labeled "Target Age" that had:
>
> * five or younger
> * six to eight
> * nine to eleven
> * twelve to fifteen
> * sixteen and older
>
> I personally wouldn't think the "sixteen and older" would indicate
> language/nudity/violence content.
>
> Such content wouldn't pass the moderators anyway, and we can make it
> clear on the website that we don't allow such content.
>
> What does the larger group think?   Would you see "sixteen and older"
> in the drop-down as saying "put your adults-only stuff here"?
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2009, at 11:30 AM, <kharness at illinois.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> This phrase gets very close to the "18 must be accompanied by
>> parents" movie rating system, will it imply, mistakenly, that the
>> content is adult/X rated.
>>
>> We chose to tag some of the projects in EtoysIllinos with grade
>> level's because they are aligned with grade level content standards.
>> The rest of the projects stand as they are without grade or age tags
>> because curiosity has no age limit and because we assume that people
>> who click on a project they don't understand will either stay with
>> it until they do understand or click out right away and go to some
>> other project.
>> Kathleen
>>
>> ---- Original message ----
>>> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:13:07 -0400
>>> From: Timothy Falconer <timothy at squeakland.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [etoys-dev] popups in project-info
>>> To: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab at gmx.de>
>>> Cc: kharness at illinois.edu, etoys dev <etoys-dev at squeakland.org>
>>>
>>> I'm good with 16 and older ... but we'll ask the education team
>>> first.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 8, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Andreas Raab wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps just call the age bracket "16 and older"?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> - Andreas
>>>>
>>>> kharness at illinois.edu wrote:
>>>>> Bert, Will the above 18 label carry connotations of the movie
>>>>> ratings: adult content? These ratings may not be in use world  
>>>>> wide,
>>>>> I don't know.
>>>>> I think age is adding an unnecessary and complicating bit of
>>>>> information.
>>>>> Kathleen
>>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:16:21 +0200
>>>>>> From: Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>  Subject: Re:
>>>>>> [etoys-
>>>>>> dev] popups in project-info  To: etoys dev <etoys-
>>>>>> dev at squeakland.org>
>>>>>> Cc: "kharness at illinois.edu> <kharness at illinois.edu"
> <kharness at illinois.edu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08.08.2009, at 20:16, Scott Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But neither your age nor mine is within the age-ranges covered
>>>>>>> by  the age pop-ups :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO "Age" should be "Target Age", and it should cover everybody.
>>>>>> This  means we need two more choices: "under 6" and "above 18".
>>>>>> And there  needs to be a way to select multiple age groups, or at
>>>>>> least add an  "everyone" choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Bert -
>>>>>>
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