[squeakland] Re: Tick Rate not accurate

[Steve Thomas]

Kathleen,

My vote on the EDU team is to remove 100, add a scriptable tile for "files
per tick" and a scriptable tile for setting the tick rate".

In your quick guide you may want to ask "What would happen if you set the
Tick Rate to less than 1?"
or "Try setting your Tick Rate to less than 1, what do you think will
happen?"

Stephen

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:12 AM, <kharness at illinois.edu> wrote:

> Yoshiki,
> Was "fires per tick" removed because of the way the OLPC works?
> BTW I wrote a new quick guide to introduce the tick rate feature.
> http://www.etoysillinois.org/library.php?sl=1075
> Regards,
> Kathleen
>
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 22:26:22 -0700
> >From: Yoshiki Ohshima <yoshiki at vpri.org>
> >Subject: Re: [squeakland] Re: Tick Rate not accurate
> >To: "squeakland at squeakland.org list" <squeakland at squeakland.org>
> >
> >At Thu, 3 Jun 2010 01:07:57 -0300,
> >Ricardo Moran wrote:
> >>
> >> Why is it hidden? It seems like a very nice feature to me.
> >
> >  No doubt that it is useful in some cases, but the "repeat" tile
> >provides the same behavior to the "fires per tick" feature but in a
> >scriptable way.
> >
> >  Also, setting the tick rate is already somewhat hidden (holding the
> >button on a clock is not discoverable).  With a hidden feature there
> >and a special-case menu item here and many combinations of these two
> >produce pretty much the same end result.  We thought it is confusing
> >enough to explain them to the end user.
> >
> >  Removing the "100" option from the tick rate menu and making a tile
> >to set tick rate in the scripting category would be nice.  Trying to
> >convince the edu team to reinstate the "fire per tick" feature might do
> >it also^^;
> >
> >-- Yoshiki
> >
> >> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima <yoshiki at vpri.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>     At Wed, 2 Jun 2010 13:18:19 -0400,
> >>     Steve Thomas wrote:
> >>     >
> >>     > Bert, thanks for the explanation.
> >>     >
> >>     > So if the default max Tick Rate is 50, should remove 100 from the
> list of selectable tick rates?
> >>     >
> >>     > "Other..." still makes sense (especially 0.1 for ticking every 10
> seconds), but we should have some warning so
> >>     folks
> >>     > know the limitations. The warning could be when you select Other
> in the dialog box that pops up. ex: "Max Rate is
> >>     50 per
> >>     > second, can change in preferences").
> >>     >
> >>     > My major purpose for using Etoys is playing around ;) no specific
> need at this point in time. I noticed the
> >>     problem when
> >>     > running Randy's Dice Roll project and was simply trying to figure
> out how things worked.
> >>
> >>      Just FYI, there is a hidden feature called "fires per tick" (only
> >>     present in the scriptor menu when etoyFriendly preference is off) to
> >>     specify how many times the script should be executed per tick. For
> >>     example, if you set the number high in Randy's Dice Roll, the bar
> >>     graph grows more rapidly.
> >>
> >>     -- Yoshiki
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