[squeakland] [IAEP] Plan Ceibal y/and General Electric

[Ron Teitelbaum]

Hi Alan,

 

One thing that comes to mind right away is DHT research.  I could be wrong
but it seems to me that the 90' saw the birth of DHT, P2P and Cloud
Computing.

 

Ron Teitelbaum

 

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Subject: Re: [squeakland] [IAEP] Plan Ceibal y/and General Electric

 

Hi Chunka,

I've been challenged on this point more than once, and have challenged back
to come up with one invention that was done after 1980 that matches up to
the top 10 done before 1980. 

This has not happened. I've been able to show the prior art for all
suggestions.

Essentially everything in the last 30 years has been commercializations and
other forms of "innovation" based on what was funded by ARPA, ONR, and by
extension, Xerox in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.

The important point here is that there are many new inventions needed, and
they can be identified, but no one has been willing to fund them. It's not
that the early birds got the worms, but that most of the needed worms out
there are being missed.

Cheers,

Alan

 

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Subject: Re: [squeakland] [IAEP] Plan Ceibal y/and General Electric

 


On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Alan Kay <alan.nemo at yahoo.com> wrote:

GE is being congratulated for recognizing that the iPhone and iPad are
pretty good ideas and technological realizations. But isn't this like the
congratulations Bill Gates got for finally recognizing the Internet (about
25 years after it had started working)?

Seems as though Apple had a lot more on the ball than Bill Gates or GE here
(they used to do computing in the 60s, but couldn't see what it was).

And most of the ideas at Apple (and for personal computing and the Internet)
came from research funding that no company or government has been willing to
do since 1982.

 

 

Alan -- Could you say more about this point?  Surely there's been tons of CS
and IT funding since '82, both govt funding to universities and massive
research budgets at msft, hp, 

 

Regards,

Chunka

 





Cheers,

Alan

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Subject: [IAEP] Plan Ceibal y/and General Electric

We try to learn from those who have succeed for a long time:

https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1XWm2q8nQ-l5KUJ_PWkQruLDx-nZ7nsKDfg4
idDlsU50

Carlos Rabassa
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