[UI] Squeak's Menus Are Awful

[Jason Johnson]

Sounds like you have a handle on it to me. :)

On 9/14/07, Bill Schwab <BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
> Gang,
>
> Now that I have filtered this list into its own folder, I have remember
> to **look at it**  ~:0
>
> How about this as a compromise: menus that are worthy of being left in
> place (not many IMHO - they should instead be separate system windows)
> should have a title bar and be draggable by that; other menus should be
> sufficiently modal that it is not a consideration.
>
> Squeak has long (ab)used menus in situations where more complex views
> were appropriate.  Look at the file picking menus: one gets a chain of
> menus vs. a dialog.  Note that there are dialogs, but there are also
> hideous menus.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
> University of Florida
> Department of Anesthesiology
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>
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>
> >>> gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com 09/13/07 7:00 PM >>>
> I think you should be "able" to pick up the menus, just via halo though,
> to
> move them out of the way. Not by a default click/drag.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
> > tim Rowledge
> > Sent: 13 September 2007 11:55 pm
> > To: Squeak's User Interface
> > Subject: Re: [UI] Squeak's Menus Are Awful
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13-Sep-07, at 3:18 PM, Todd Blanchard wrote:
> >
> > > Specifically, they open to the right of the mouse.
> > There's a good reason for that; if you click the mouse button
> > you get
> > a button-down followed by a button-up. If the menu opened under the
> > mouse location you would have accidentally picked whatever item was
> > in the right place. Delete all files, anyone?
> >
> > It's particularly likely to be annoying when the menus are slow to
> > dispaly, which they certainly seem to be in recent Squeak
> > images. Now
> > venting about Morphic performance in 3.9 is something worth doing.
> > Dismal. And I'm running on a 2GHz dualcore OSX machine with 2Gb ram,
> > not exactly a slow system.
> >
> > >   If you open a menu, don't move the mouse, and click, you will
> > > pick up the menu with the hand.  This happens to me - oh - about
> > > 50% of the time.  Either open the menu under the mouse, or make it
> > > so I can't pick it up except with the title bar.
> > Do the latter for the reasons mentioned above. Being able to pick up
> > a menu at any point is insane.
> >
> >
> > tim
> > --
> > tim Rowledge; tim at rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
> > Press [ESC] to detonate or any other key to explode.
> >
> >
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