[UI] Mouse wheel

[Bill Schwab]

Gary,

I saw 285 and loaded that and fiddled around slightly.  I made a point
of using the wheel to scroll panes in inactive windows interspersed with
typing in the active window, and that seems to work except when the
scrolling list is part of the active window.  With the other traffic, I
suspect that a change to regain keyboard selection in the lists is being
enabled on mouse over (if only in/under the active windows) vs. after
transfer of focus.  I see where you are going, but it essentially brings
back the "lists grab the focus" problem.

IMHO, if a user wants to simply point at a list and have it grab the
focus for keyboard navigation, they should use a policy that changes
focus on mouse-over.  As a click/tab to change focus type, I want the
focus to be independent of the mouse movement, and will click/tab to a
list that I want to navigate by keyboard.  Hopefully it will suffice to
limit the navigation to the list with the focus.  Reasonable?

As always, thanks for working on this!!!

Bill




Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610-0254

Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
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>>> gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com 01/28/08 11:42 AM >>>
Load Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.284 from SqueakSource and enjoy!
Was tricky to figure out but done nicely, I think.
If the VMs get arround to generating mouse wheel events natively
(rrather
than simulating with a keystroke) it is a small matter to support that
when/if that happens.

Will await feedback before updating the Universe.

Regards, Gary.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill Schwab
> Sent: 22 January 2008 3:21 AM
> To: ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> Subject: Re: [UI] Mouse wheel
>
>
> Gary,
>
> It is not terribly high on my priority list, but the more I work with
> Squeak, the more I notice that the way other apps handle the wheel
makes
> a LOT of sense.  Given a choice, I would opt for solid keyboard focus
> every time.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
> University of Florida
> Department of Anesthesiology
> PO Box 100254
> Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
>
> Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
> Tel: (352) 846-1285
> FAX: (352) 392-7029
>
> >>> gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com 01/21/08 6:27 PM >>>
> I've looked at that, would be nice! Unfortunately, in Squeak, the
mouse
> wheel is simulated as keyboard events. It would require some hacking
to
> pick these up and send to the mouse focus instead. If there is
> sufficient interest I'll take a stab at it.
>
> Thanks. Gary.
>
> ----- Original message -----
> From: Bill Schwab  <BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu>
> To: <ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008, 20:45:13 GMT
> Subject: [UI] Mouse wheel
> Gary,
>
> I hope this is not a repeat, or worse yet reflective of my not having
> installed a new enough release, but _almost_ as much as I think
keyboard
> focus should be managed very carefully and independent of the mouse
> cursor location, I think the mouse wheel input should follow the mouse
> cursor, even so far as scrolling panes that are not active, and not
even
> part of the active shell.  First, I just noticed Ubuntu, its graphical
> terminal, and OpenOffice do this to good effect (as just one example);
> second, if I am typing, mouse movement is probably made to avoid
visual
> distraction from the cursor, if I am turning the mouse wheel, it is
> almost certainly a deliberate action associated with the cursor
> location.  Fair?
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
> University of Florida
> Department of Anesthesiology
> PO Box 100254
> Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
>
> Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
> Tel: (352) 846-1285
> FAX: (352) 392-7029
>
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