[UI] Mouse wheel

[Gary Chambers]

Note that the default value for mouseClickForKeyboardFocus (in UITheme
class>>initialize)is false for "compatibility with old Squeak behaviour".
Perhaps it would be better set to true.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill Schwab
> Sent: 04 February 2008 12:23 PM
> To: ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> Subject: RE: [UI] Mouse wheel
>
>
> Gary,
>
> Ok, the place to start is for me to double check my preferences.  More
> to come.  Thanks!
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
> University of Florida
> Department of Anesthesiology
> PO Box 100254
> Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
>
> Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
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>
> >>> gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com 02/04/08 6:01 AM >>>
> Odd, I get the expected behaviour (with mouseClickForKeyboardFocus
> enabled
> and mouseOverForKeyboardFocus disabled).
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill Schwab
> > Sent: 03 February 2008 12:32 AM
> > To: ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > Subject: RE: [UI] Mouse wheel
> >
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > I saw 285 and loaded that and fiddled around slightly.  I made a point
> > of using the wheel to scroll panes in inactive windows interspersed
> with
> > typing in the active window, and that seems to work except when the
> > scrolling list is part of the active window.  With the other traffic,
> I
> > suspect that a change to regain keyboard selection in the lists is
> being
> > enabled on mouse over (if only in/under the active windows) vs. after
> > transfer of focus.  I see where you are going, but it essentially
> brings
> > back the "lists grab the focus" problem.
> >
> > IMHO, if a user wants to simply point at a list and have it grab the
> > focus for keyboard navigation, they should use a policy that changes
> > focus on mouse-over.  As a click/tab to change focus type, I want the
> > focus to be independent of the mouse movement, and will click/tab to a
> > list that I want to navigate by keyboard.  Hopefully it will suffice
> to
> > limit the navigation to the list with the focus.  Reasonable?
> >
> > As always, thanks for working on this!!!
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
> > University of Florida
> > Department of Anesthesiology
> > PO Box 100254
> > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
> >
> > Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
> > Tel: (352) 846-1285
> > FAX: (352) 392-7029
> >
> > >>> gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com 01/28/08 11:42 AM >>>
> > Load Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.284 from SqueakSource and enjoy!
> > Was tricky to figure out but done nicely, I think.
> > If the VMs get arround to generating mouse wheel events natively
> > (rrather
> > than simulating with a keystroke) it is a small matter to support that
> > when/if that happens.
> >
> > Will await feedback before updating the Universe.
> >
> > Regards, Gary.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > > [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill
> Schwab
> > > Sent: 22 January 2008 3:21 AM
> > > To: ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > > Subject: Re: [UI] Mouse wheel
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary,
> > >
> > > It is not terribly high on my priority list, but the more I work
> with
> > > Squeak, the more I notice that the way other apps handle the wheel
> > makes
> > > a LOT of sense.  Given a choice, I would opt for solid keyboard
> focus
> > > every time.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
> > > University of Florida
> > > Department of Anesthesiology
> > > PO Box 100254
> > > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
> > >
> > > Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
> > > Tel: (352) 846-1285
> > > FAX: (352) 392-7029
> > >
> > > >>> gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com 01/21/08 6:27 PM >>>
> > > I've looked at that, would be nice! Unfortunately, in Squeak, the
> > mouse
> > > wheel is simulated as keyboard events. It would require some hacking
> > to
> > > pick these up and send to the mouse focus instead. If there is
> > > sufficient interest I'll take a stab at it.
> > >
> > > Thanks. Gary.
> > >
> > > ----- Original message -----
> > > From: Bill Schwab  <BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu>
> > > To: <ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> > > Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008, 20:45:13 GMT
> > > Subject: [UI] Mouse wheel
> > > Gary,
> > >
> > > I hope this is not a repeat, or worse yet reflective of my not
> having
> > > installed a new enough release, but _almost_ as much as I think
> > keyboard
> > > focus should be managed very carefully and independent of the mouse
> > > cursor location, I think the mouse wheel input should follow the
> mouse
> > > cursor, even so far as scrolling panes that are not active, and not
> > even
> > > part of the active shell.  First, I just noticed Ubuntu, its
> graphical
> > > terminal, and OpenOffice do this to good effect (as just one
> example);
> > > second, if I am typing, mouse movement is probably made to avoid
> > visual
> > > distraction from the cursor, if I am turning the mouse wheel, it is
> > > almost certainly a deliberate action associated with the cursor
> > > location.  Fair?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
> > > University of Florida
> > > Department of Anesthesiology
> > > PO Box 100254
> > > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
> > >
> > > Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
> > > Tel: (352) 846-1285
> > > FAX: (352) 392-7029
> > >
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